Wineador storage dilemma.

[Kenf13]

Hello all,

I have a wineador, got some nice drawers but found that I could easily store more cigars if I just kept all my stick in there original box.

Even though the boxes have been out in open air and not humidified, will I be ok to but the stick back in their box and store them that way?

P.S. I'll have some drawers for sale soon, maybe.

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[topdiesel]

My .02 = Buy another wineador.  Set it up and get it functioning properly.  Put empty boxes in and allow them to acclimate.  Move cigars back into empty boxes.  Keep other humidor with beautiful drawers for singles or mostly empty box contents as you acquire more.  

Or you could go the route of a nice big tupperdor/coolidor for your long term storage, but then you wont have the climate control.

 

[TomF]

Or you could remove 3 or 4 of the drawers, use the bottom of the winedor to store boxes and keep a drawer or two at the top for singles and the cigars from partially-empty boxes. You'll also have problems keeping slb's and cabs intact without taking out at least one drawer.

[jwr0201]

7 minutes ago, TomF said:

Or you could remove 3 or 4 of the drawers, use the bottom of the winedor to store boxes and keep a drawer or two at the top for singles and the cigars from partially-empty boxes. You'll also have problems keeping slb's and cabs intact without taking out at least one drawer.

I agree.  I did this with my wineador after adding boxes and cabs.  Hated to remove the nice drawers, but get much better storage for boxes now.  Now...to moce up in size!  Good problem to have!

[planetary]

15 minutes ago, TomF said:

Or you could remove 3 or 4 of the drawers, use the bottom of the winedor to store boxes and keep a drawer or two at the top for singles and the cigars from partially-empty boxes. You'll also have problems keeping slb's and cabs intact without taking out at least one drawer.

Yep!

[Homer]

Remove all the drawers and leave only the  two shelves like I have.

[Kenf13]

Remove all the drawers and leave only the  two shelves like I have.

Why do you keep some in ziplocks?

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[Homer]

For aging purposes and if I get beetles they won't destroy everything. They also stabilize the humidity.

[Kenf13]

For aging purposes and if I get beetles they won't destroy everything. They also stabilize the humidity.

Ever try freezing?

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[Homer]

I freeze all the boxes for 4 days when I get them.

[Kenf13]

I freeze all the boxes for 4 days when I get them.

You still do the plastic bag after, have you ever had bugs after a 4 day freeze?

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[Homer]

I don't but my friend has. They destroyed many boxes of cuban cigars.

[LeafLover]

Just buy another fridge

[jwr0201]

9 hours ago, Homer said:

For aging purposes and if I get beetles they won't destroy everything. They also stabilize the humidity.

Can't beetles get through zip lock plastic?  I've seen them having gone straight through celo.  

[Homer]

I don't know, but I hope that they don't like zip lock plastic

[PapaDisco]

The original question related to the effect of putting properly humidified cigars back into un-humidified boxes and how much moisture that would draw from the humidor.  I've not seen any data on the subject, but you could guesstimate it if you know your ambient humidity.  Set a humistat in one of your boxes and see how far off it is from your humidor's conditions.  

If it's pretty close then I'd make the switch and not worry other than to check the units humidification a little more frequently the first week.  If there's a bigger gap between inside and outside rH's then I'd take a drawer or two out at a time and put the boxes back in one at a time.  One dry box loaded with 65rh cigars in a 65rH humidor will acclimatize very quickly.  Then put in another box full of cigars a day or two later.  You'll likely have to top up your humidification of course.

[PigFish]

... what is your ambient? In your part of the world I would guess the boxes are pretty dry.

If one is using passive rH control in an active humidor, my estimation is that PMC of the cigars left exposed inside are all over the place. Based on the OP storage approach, I would just put the cigars in the boxes!

-Piggy

[Kenf13]

... what is your ambient? In your part of the world I would guess the boxes are pretty dry.

If one is using passive rH control in an active humidor, my estimation is that PMC of the cigars left exposed inside are all over the place. Based on the OP storage approach, I would just put the cigars in the boxes!

-Piggy

Arizona is super dry, summer time outside between 4-8% so yea those boxes are dry. Going to place a few can in and acclimate they and I'm moving back to boxes.

Sticks are keep between 65-68 with Heartfelt beads.

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[PapaDisco]

A box or two at a time should be well tolerated by your system.  And storing in the original boxes will keep the air exchange down over time, hopefully keeping the tasty elements in the cigars!