To your Taste, blends that are "fuller" than they use to be.

[El Presidente]

For those who smoke them I would love your input regarding the HDM Epicure Number 1 and the Saint Luis Rey Serie A

Is it just my palate changing (and all palates change as you get older), or have the HDM Epicure 1 and the Saint Luis Rey Serie A gone from light bodied+ to Medium bodied (and sometimes a tad more) since 2013?

I am enjoying the current offerings a great deal but I can't recall them being this "full" pre 2013. I don't mean to say they are full bodied in any way, full flavoured certainly (and complex) but the core strength has certainly (to me) gone up a few notches.

Just me or have others noted the same?

if you have any other examples of noticeable changes n cigars that you have smoked over the years...point them out for us.

[Charltonc]

I have noticed quite a bit of strength recently in SLR series A compared to years ago. I didn't notice that with recent hdm epicure no 1

[Boosted]

I was just telling a friend that current SLR A are fuller than they have ever been. I haven't noticed a difference in the Epi 1 though.

[Smallclub]

To me the Serie A has always been a medium bodied cigar.

But I find recent Regios to be substantially stronger and richer than those from the mid 2000's.

And recent Juan Lopez N°2 as well.

I also have the impression that the RyJ Exhibicion N°4 is now a bit stronger than what it used to be until recent years.

[Duxnutz]

I had a '12 Serie A only a few weeks ago and it was definitely lighter than the '14 I've had several of. I took it as batch variation though.

[Overproof]

To me the Serie A has always been a medium bodied cigar.

But I find recent Regios to be substantially stronger and richer than those from the mid 2000's.

And recent Juan Lopez N°2 as well.

I also have the impression that the RyJ Exhibicion N°4 is now a bit stronger than what it used to be until recent years.

Neither Rob mentions but I def agree with the comment on the JL2. I have some from 2012 and some from 2014, I found the 14 much richer.

[El Presidente]

And recent Juan Lopez N°2 as well.

Very true. Much fuller.

[Randolph]

Very true. Much fuller.

Very true. I have some JL 2 from 2007 and 2014. They are very different cigars - the younger medium to full and older mild to medium and nothing to do with age.

Randy

[Smallclub]

is this the sameness i've heard others talking about creeping into Cuban cigars?

Sameness? Definitely not. Try some Regios, JL2, PSD4, Petit Edmundo of the same age and tell us about "sameness".

BBF, SP belicoso and SCDLH La Punta: same size, completely different…

Diplo N°2, Upmann N°2, Monte N°2, Partagas P2: sameness?

[PigFish]

While I don't smoke a lot of newer cigars, nor wider bodied ones, I do think that as Habanos have become more homogenous, they have trended toward getting more fuller bodied.

This is just a passing observation on my part. As I said, unless someone shares a newer robusto or a piramides with me, I don't have them to smoke. I have just felt that some of these wider cigars have more life in them than I can remember prior to '06.

Cheers! -Piggy

[JackFNQ]

While I don't smoke a lot of newer cigars, nor wider bodied ones, ...

I have just felt that some of these wider cigars

have more life FORCE in them than I can remember prior to '06.

Cheers! -Piggy

Come to the wide side piggy, you don't know the recent power of the wide side - Darth Wolf.

[PigFish]

Come to the wide side piggy, you don't know the recent power of the wide side - Darth Wolf.

-LOL

Old Pigs don't do new tricks!

Frankly I have nothing against any cigar, except experience! While I have always stated that the best cigar you have ever had can come in any shape and from any box, I have just grown tired of pursuing the popular, yet in my humble opinion, mediocre wide bodied cigars.

There is little worse than spending the funds that could buy you good cigars (or ones that have a positive history) on ones that you will never smoke because they are not that good. To put salt in it, when you know better, it is kind of a kick in the nuts!

I appreciate the invite however!

Cheers! -Piggy

[laficion]

For those who smoke them .

[laficion]

For those who smoke them I would love your input regarding the HDM Epicure Number 1 and the Saint Luis Rey Serie A

Is it just my palate changing (and all palates change as you get older), or have the HDM Epicure 1 and the Saint Luis Rey Serie A gone from light bodied+ to Medium bodied (and sometimes a tad more) since 2013?

I am enjoying the current offerings a great deal but I can't recall them being this "full" pre 2013. I don't mean to say they are full bodied in any way, full flavoured certainly (and complex) but the core strength has certainly (to me) gone up a few notches.

Just me or have others noted the same?

if you have any other examples of noticeable changes n cigars that you have smoked over the years...point them out for us.

Dear Rob,

Since 2008, I find that the HdM Epicure No. 1 with the SLR Serie A and more so the Juan Lopez's,

In a way,have become much fuller and less caramelly to me but I thought that It was me and my palate.

But I see that I'm not the only one.

I find that It doesn't make much of a difference to me but I do regret that I don't find that much honey taste and that caramel

In those brands anymore espescially In LGC since 2000.

Guy