ayepatz Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 I've just bought a second 44L tupperdor, as I've got 4 boxes arriving this week, as Tupperdor 1 is chocka with boxes and cabs - Tetris max is 14 or so. I have a 75-count desktop humi as well. All in, I've spent about £350 so far on storage, with the tupperdors a coming in at £20 each. Question - how long do I stick with the cheap option, and what should the next stage for storage be? (On average, I buy a box/cab per fortnight.)
phreedh Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 The thing about tupperdors is they're the least appealing but most functional solution. It's cheap, there's minimal leakage so the humidity is stable and there's no start-up time. A big cabinet is much easier on the eyes, but it's also a lot more effort (and money) to keep it going. Edit: I realize I didn't adress the actual question... =D What next? Either keep on trucking with tupperdors and keep a few table humidors for serving purposes, or go wine fridge. I'm considering that as my next step. 1
Popular Post gr8eman Posted July 31, 2015 Popular Post Posted July 31, 2015 What I did was find an old wine refrigerator that has the optimum size you think you will need for storage. I plugged up the holes using cork and mastic, which is odorless when dry. Then got some luaun (sp) plywood and laminated it with cedar veneer, which was a bit pricey, and glued that to the back and bottom. Also I got 1/4 inch thick x 3 inch cedar strips and used liquid nails to glue them to the sides between the rails for the slide out racks. I took a cedar strip and cut a rectangular hole in it, glued it on the uppermost sliding rack, and put the humidifier in it so the humidifier can be removed and replaced to be refilled with no problems. Ran the electric cable for the humidifier through a big hole in the upper back, which most wine refrigerators have, sealed it, tie wrapped the humidifier power pack to the element on the back, and used a single outlet extension cord to run to the electric outlet on the wall. All in all it came out great. Once the cooler wood got saturated, it holds the humidity very well. When I open the door to take out a cigar, it returns to set humidity in 1 minute, which is indicated by the humidifier LED. I approximate it stores at least 1,000 boxed cigars. The best advantage for me is I do not have to take my cigars out of the boxes to store them. As I really started to get into cigars, I had to take them out of the box to store them in normal humidors. Now I know the date and code as they are stored in the original boxes. Empty boxes also grow legs. You can get rid of your humidors if you get storage, but I have a system now using my old humidors where I will only store in-tact boxes in the wineador. I keep mixed and matched cigars in one of my old humidors and use another smaller one to dry box. As Rob noted, proper dry boxing cigars is very important, especially if you live in a humid climate. Since my house is climate controlled, when I dry box a stogie, which will need longer dry boxing than a skinny, I keep it in the dry box for at least 2 days. Also, with my wineador setup, the humidifier is at the top, and the RH is consistently lower at the bottom. I was not happy with this at first, but now I see it is an advantage and keep lower ring gauge cigars or regular rotation cigars at the bottom so they don't need to be dry boxed as much or at all. Total cost for this project was a little over $300 USD, but it was worth it. 5
phreedh Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Gr8eman, nice write-up! Any reason why you dressed the fridge with wood? I'm thinking all the boxes in the fridge would make it a nice cedar bomb either way?
gr8eman Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Gr8eman, nice write-up! Any reason why you dressed the fridge with wood? I'm thinking all the boxes in the fridge would make it a nice cedar bomb either way? I figured that the humidity would be much more stable, and it really is. Was nervous expending so much time and money for this project, but my idea worked. Now I have a very stable controlled humidor. Also, I only have to refill the humidifier maybe 2 times a year. 1
DoubleDD Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 I figured that the humidity would be much more stable, and it really is. Was nervous expending so much time and money for this project, but my idea worked. Now I have a very stable controlled humidor. Also, I only have to refill the humidifier maybe 2 times a year. Ever think of setting up small electronic cooling fans? I set mine up on a timer so the air circulated about every 1.5 hours. The RH is consistent throughout. I used 80mm fans and it works nicely.
gr8eman Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Ever think of setting up small electronic cooling fans? I set mine up on a timer so the air circulated about every 1.5 hours. The RH is consistent throughout. I used 80mm fans and it works nicely. The humidifier did come with a small fan, but I don't use it. You can hook multiple fans to the humidifier, but I have learned to like the fact that the RH is lower in the bottom. 1
jacksfull Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 I've been using a 150 qt Coleman cooler for a while now. It replaced a foot-locker style woodie. The cooler is much easier to keep stable RH and holds a good bit more. Nevertheless, it only took a few 24:24's to see that it would soon be overflowing, even after pitching out handfuls of old NC's I knew I would never smoke. So, I recently added a Whynter CHC-251S Cigar Cooler Humidor. Caught it on a coupon deal for about US$250 delivered. It's great! I highly recommend it. Very easy to keep stable RH. I wish it were a bit bigger, but after rearranging shelving (removing some) I've upped the advertised capacity of 400 cigars to about 600. Regardless, it's nice that the wine-fridge makers are finally producing dedicated "wineadors" that don't require conversion, and at a reasonable price. 3
KGM Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Nice! I see Best Buy has those for $310 (20% off). Wonder if they do volume discounts? 4 or 5 would make a fantastic looking set of wall mounted cabinets in my bar!
egoo33 Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 I've been using a 150 qt Coleman cooler for a while now. It replaced a foot-locker style woodie. The cooler is much easier to keep stable RH and holds a good bit more. Nevertheless, it only took a few 24:24's to see that it would soon be overflowing, even after pitching out handfuls of old NC's I knew I would never smoke. So, I recently added a Whynter CHC-251S Cigar Cooler Humidor. Caught it on a coupon deal for about US$250 delivered. It's great! I highly recommend it. Very easy to keep stable RH. I wish it were a bit bigger, but after rearranging shelving (removing some) I've upped the advertised capacity of 400 cigars to about 600. Regardless, it's nice that the wine-fridge makers are finally producing dedicated "wineadors" that don't require conversion, and at a reasonable price. i have the exact unit could not be happier with out no plastic smell out the box to boot 1
ayepatz Posted July 31, 2015 Author Posted July 31, 2015 I've been using a 150 qt Coleman cooler for a while now. It replaced a foot-locker style woodie. The cooler is much easier to keep stable RH and holds a good bit more. Nevertheless, it only took a few 24:24's to see that it would soon be overflowing, even after pitching out handfuls of old NC's I knew I would never smoke. So, I recently added a Whynter CHC-251S Cigar Cooler Humidor. Caught it on a coupon deal for about US$250 delivered. It's great! I highly recommend it. Very easy to keep stable RH. I wish it were a bit bigger, but after rearranging shelving (removing some) I've upped the advertised capacity of 400 cigars to about 600. Regardless, it's nice that the wine-fridge makers are finally producing dedicated "wineadors" that don't require conversion, and at a reasonable price. Looks great. Did you add the shelves yourself? Going to be up to 600 very soon. Might be looking for more space.
JohnS Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 It's quite amazing how quickly your cigar collection can build up. For me, there comes a certain point in your cigar-enjoyment journey where one may need to consider an online humidor solution. It sounds like the fridge may be a good solution for you now, Iain. 1
planetary Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 I have two NewAir CC-280E 400 Count Cigar Coolers, both of which work great, and are increasingly full. 2
jacksfull Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Looks great. Did you add the shelves yourself? Going to be up to 600 very soon. Might be looking for more space. No. It comes with the cedar shelves and drawers. I actually removed two of the shelves to make the space more usable. That's a stock online photo, BTW (posted by URL). I never have figured out how to upload my own pics here. 1
stogieluver Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 I've just bought a second 44L tupperdor, as I've got 4 boxes arriving this week, as Tupperdor 1 is chocka with boxes and cabs - Tetris max is 14 or so. I have a 75-count desktop humi as well. All in, I've spent about £350 so far on storage, with the tupperdors a coming in at £20 each. Question - how long do I stick with the cheap option, and what should the next stage for storage be? (On average, I buy a box/cab per fortnight.) Please tell a country boy from south Alabama...just what the heck is a "fortnight" anyway?
ayepatz Posted August 1, 2015 Author Posted August 1, 2015 Please tell a country boy from south Alabama...just what the heck is a "fortnight" anyway? Two weeks, though I've broken through that ceiling with this month's 24:24 offers!
egoo33 Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 here is what the drawer looks like inside the Whynter you can stack 3 rows high although i am not at that point yet
tomj Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 I've been using a 150 qt Coleman cooler for a while now. It replaced a foot-locker style woodie. The cooler is much easier to keep stable RH and holds a good bit more. Nevertheless, it only took a few 24:24's to see that it would soon be overflowing, even after pitching out handfuls of old NC's I knew I would never smoke. So, I recently added a Whynter CHC-251S Cigar Cooler Humidor. Caught it on a coupon deal for about US$250 delivered. It's great! I highly recommend it. Very easy to keep stable RH. I wish it were a bit bigger, but after rearranging shelving (removing some) I've upped the advertised capacity of 400 cigars to about 600. Regardless, it's nice that the wine-fridge makers are finally producing dedicated "wineadors" that don't require conversion, and at a reasonable price. I also have the same unit and it works great. For deals , look to Amazon at Christmas time. 2
Bennettjohnl Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 I've been using a 150 qt Coleman cooler for a while now. It replaced a foot-locker style woodie. The cooler is much easier to keep stable RH and holds a good bit more. Nevertheless, it only took a few 24:24's to see that it would soon be overflowing, even after pitching out handfuls of old NC's I knew I would never smoke. So, I recently added a Whynter CHC-251S Cigar Cooler Humidor. Caught it on a coupon deal for about US$250 delivered. It's great! I highly recommend it. Very easy to keep stable RH. I wish it were a bit bigger, but after rearranging shelving (removing some) I've upped the advertised capacity of 400 cigars to about 600. Regardless, it's nice that the wine-fridge makers are finally producing dedicated "wineadors" that don't require conversion, and at a reasonable price. I have the same model as well. Curious of how you set up drawers/shelving to maximize storage and maintain steady RH. Had mine since Dec or so and initially had a hard time managing RH until I made some room in there. Love to see your setup and hear how it's performing.
jacksfull Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 I have the same model as well. Curious of how you set up drawers/shelving to maximize storage and maintain steady RH. Had mine since Dec or so and initially had a hard time managing RH until I made some room in there. Love to see your setup and hear how it's performing. I'm not having any problems with RH. I've seen other people mention discrepancies between RH at top and bottom, and moving things around to help even it out. But, I simply removed two shelves in order to stack boxes (could barely stack 2 PC 25's between shelves as they came). Maybe I inadvertently resolved RH issue... if I ever had one... dunno'. Better for me now anyway. Oh yeah, I also enlarged the hole for the POS stock hygrometer and replaced it with a Caliber 4R. 1
Vortigan Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 I've just bought a second 44L tupperdor, as I've got 4 boxes arriving this week, as Tupperdor 1 is chocka with boxes and cabs - Tetris max is 14 or so. I have a 75-count desktop humi as well. All in, I've spent about £350 so far on storage, with the tupperdors a coming in at £20 each. Question - how long do I stick with the cheap option, and what should the next stage for storage be? (On average, I buy a box/cab per fortnight.) Would you mind my asking where you get these tups from,please? Sounds like something I could use right about now...and at a decent price for that capacity.Thanks!
ayepatz Posted August 2, 2015 Author Posted August 2, 2015 Would you mind my asking where you get these tups from,please? Sounds like something I could use right about now...and at a decent price for that capacity.Thanks! I get them from Lakeland mate. You can buy them from the website. I find that three 65rh bovedas is more than enough to keep things in order. 1
Bennettjohnl Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 I'm not having any problems with RH. I've seen other people mention discrepancies between RH at top and bottom, and moving things around to help even it out. But, I simply removed two shelves in order to stack boxes (could barely stack 2 PC 25's between shelves as they came). Maybe I inadvertently resolved RH issue... if I ever had one... dunno'. Better for me now anyway. Oh yeah, I also enlarged the hole for the POS stock hygrometer and replaced it with a Caliber 4R. Whynter-filled-450x600.jpg Nice, your setup is close to where I am currently. I'll yank another shelf for more box stacking in the morning. Thanks for sharing your setup. 1
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