Co-Worker is going to Europe!

[Smallclub]

Note: it's improper to say 'Name' von 'Place'. it was a title given to people of royalties back in the day like Dukes, Earls, etc [who obviously don't exist anymore]. Rarely anyone is called 'von something' anymore.

But the joke was just that.

I don't understand why you have to say this in this thread, but you're wrong. There are still plenty of people, noble or not, whose name contains the prefix von (van in The Netherlands).

[Perla]

Note: it's improper to say 'Name' von 'Place'. it was a title given to people of royalties back in the day like Dukes, Earls, etc [who obviously don't exist anymore]. Rarely anyone is called 'von something' anymore.

But the joke was just that.

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I don't understand why you have to say this in this thread, but you're wrong. There are still plenty of people, noble or not, whose name contains the prefix von (van in The Netherlands).

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[Dmatzkin]

Hi, i'm from Vienna too. Besides Hazards shop, i can also recommend the shop at "Westbahnhof" they have a nice selection. I can send you a pricelist of almost all the cigars, that are available here. Also, if you want, i can call the shops and ask to reserve a box of the ideales for your friend.

That would be awesome!!!!! I will find out where my friend is staying in Vienna and will PM you.

Thanks a million for the offer!!!

[Dmatzkin]

Thats me,

cheers, Alex

Nice to meet you Alex!!!! .

[Squarehead]

I have no problems getting into the websites of Lcdh Stuttgart or the Lcdh Nürnberg(Nuremberg).Both have Prizes listed and you can get it in different languages including english.

[Maplepie]

but you're wrong. There are still plenty of people, noble or not, whose name contains the prefix von (van in The Netherlands).

'van' in the low countries has the same meaning as 'von'... but carries none of the implications of royalties.

this is because the only people who bear the last names 'von' nowadays are people who are descendants of the nobility pre-1918 (when the Kaiser still reigned). of course, they are no longer 'noble' because the existence and titles of such vanished with the Kaiser in the revolution

I don't understand why you have to say this in this thread

This is true... sorry for the forced history lessons, Dan

back on topic now:

[Smallclub]

this is because the only people who bear the last names 'von' nowadays are people who are descendants of the nobility pre-1918 (when the Kaiser still reigned). of course, they are no longer 'noble' because the existence and titles of such vanished with the Kaiser in the revolution

This is true... sorry for the forced history lessons, Dan

You can't be serious... What revolution? Have a look at the names of the german generals of WWII, specially those who tried to get rid of Hitler…

And what about Hans-Adam von and zu Liechtenstein, Prince of Liechstenstein?

FYI, there still is an influent aristocracy in Germany and Austria…

[AussieCanuck]

You can't be serious... What revolution? Have a look at the names of the german generals of WWII, specially those who tried to get rid of Hitler…

And what about Hans-Adam von and zu Liechtenstein, Prince of Liechstenstein?

FYI, there still is an influent aristocracy in Germany and Austria…

Umm...way off topic but the period from 1918 to 1919 prior to the establishment of the Weimar Republic is referred to as The German Revolution of 1918-1919.

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[Smallclub]

Umm...way off topic but the period from 1918 to 1919 prior to the establishment of the Weimar Republic is referred to as The German Revolution of 1918-1919.

Yes but since when it was the end of the nobility in Germany?

[Optic101]

Umm...way off topic but the period from 1918 to 1919 prior to the establishment of the Weimar Republic is referred to as The German Revolution of 1918-1919.

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They called it November Revolution which ends Monarchy not Nobility.

my 2 cents

[Smallclub]

which ends Monarchy not Nobility.

Exactly.

[garbandz]

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...............

[Kruz]

I find this topic very interesting. I will be in Amsterdam/Berlin/Prague/Vienna/Rome later in this year and have already noted the suggestion to pick up the Austrian RE. Arguments about last names aside, are there any other recommendations?

[Perla]

Kruz, on 28 May 2014 - 4:14 PM, said:

I find this topic very interesting. I will be in Amsterdam/Berlin/Prague/Vienna/Rome later in this year and have already noted the suggestion to pick up the Austrian RE. Arguments about last names aside, are there any other recommendations?

If I had it right in my mind - canadianbeaver post a thread about her journey through Europe last year or the year before. Lisa wrote about Amsterdam.

If you are in Berlin don't miss to drop by at the Herzog am Hafen

http://www.herzog-am-hafen.de/index.php?language=en&osCsid=aaeb04e201adc86152b895e6d3e15d3e

He is a great host and his range of cigars is legendary and if you are lucky you find some vintage cigars. Probably you find a lot of RE/LE

Prices are in Austria much higher for the cigars than in Germany. The RE JL Ideales are really worth it, I found my box in Vienna in a shop of Kurt Dohnal. Meeting with Alex will be more beneficial & more fun than my list.

• Cigarstore Hazar
  Margaretenstraße 42
  1040 Wien
• Nancy Friedenthal
  (Kassenhalle Westbahnhof)
  Europaplatz 1
  1150 Wien
• Trafik Maria Singer
  Praterstern große Halle
  1020 Wien
• Dohnal Kurt
  Löwengasse 17
  1030 Wien
  E-Mail: [email protected]
  Tel.: 01/712 83 72

[Kruz]

That is awesome. Thank you very much.

[Dmatzkin]

Indeed Perla!!! Thank you!!!!

[Smallclub]

In Prague airport's Terminal 2 (Schengen area flights) there is a café called "El Mundo del Tabacco & Café" that sells habanos, cuban rums, and where you can smoke.

[kittipong]

Now I am in Paris, think about plan to German and Austria, will try to visit all those shops you guys mentions.

In Paris I also has great time to visit Le Lotus and met Regis. I got rare vintage like a cab of Punch SS No.1 and Punch Monarch 2001 and many of French ER.

[Dmatzkin]

My co-worker came through in a HUGE way!!!!!!!

Thank you all for the help on this!!!

[rickmccarey]

Nice return you got Dan!

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[Perla]

Very nice haul. Congrats.

[Lotusguy]

Nice, low box numbers on the Ideales

[Hafner32]

Nice pickups!

[Kruz]

I don't usually like to revive ancient threads but had to put out a big thank you for the the ideales recommendation. I picked them up in Vienna last September and just had my first one last night. What a fantastic cigar!