ewipper Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Does anybody have any idea exactly which factory "BRS" is?
nick2021 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Does anybody have any idea exactly which factory "BRS" is? Unfortunately I do not. However, there are Espys with this same code as Sir Winnies. I assume this is to touch upon what is being discussed in the sir winnie thread?
ewipper Posted February 17, 2014 Author Posted February 17, 2014 Actually considering a box of juan lopez and not sure. I knew about the Churchills but I am racking the brain on Juan Lopez. Need a couple more boxes of the 2.
BonVivant Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 It's not the Chrysler factory? Not that codes matter, but the Chrysler factory was renamed to Mazerati 1
ewipper Posted February 17, 2014 Author Posted February 17, 2014 Was looking for a mini cooper, sh*t back to the drawing board.
mk05 Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 What's wrong with RMS for JL2? They were putting out some really nice Robustos in 2012, although I think I said back then, the D4s tasted like JL#2s, which was weird.
BonVivant Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 What's wrong with RMS for JL2? They were putting out some really nice Robustos in 2012, although I think I said back then, the D4s tasted like JL#2s, which was weird. RMS = Robustos Mazerati Style?
Bartolomeo Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 I would be curious to what you find out as there a bunch of boxes from this factory the past 2 years Cohiba Siglo II Box 25 BRS MAY 13 Cohiba Esplendidos Box 15 BRS MAY 13 Cohiba Siglo VI Box 25 BRS MAR 13 H.Upmann Sir Winston Box 25 BRS JUN 13 Hoyo de MOnterrey Grand Epicure Edicion Limitada 2013 Box 10 BRS SEP 13 Juan Lopez Petit Coronas Box 25 BRS JUL 12 Juan Lopez Petit Coronas Box 25 BRS JUN 13 Juan Lopez Petit Coronas Box 25 BRS OCT 12 Juan Lopez Seleccion No.1 Box 25 BRS MAR 13 Montecristo No.2 Box 25 BRS ABR 13 Romeo Y Julieta Mille Fleurs Box 25 BRS ARB 13 Romeo Y Julieta Romeo No.1 A/T Box 25 BRS ABR 13 San Cristobal De La Habana El Morro Box 25 BRS JUN 13 Sancho Panza Belicosos Box 25 BRS JUN 13 Sancho Panza Non Plus Box 25 BRS JUN 12
LouisMazzini Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 To complicate matters, and disregard if this is taken as a thread jack, but my JL2s are from PSM 2013. Wondering what factory that is as well. Any help appreciated. Cheers!
ArtemusGordon Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 I would be curious to what you find out as there a bunch of boxes from this factory the past 2 years Cohiba Siglo II Box 25 BRS MAY 13 Cohiba Esplendidos Box 15 BRS MAY 13 Cohiba Siglo VI Box 25 BRS MAR 13 H.Upmann Sir Winston Box 25 BRS JUN 13 Hoyo de MOnterrey Grand Epicure Edicion Limitada 2013 Box 10 BRS SEP 13 Juan Lopez Petit Coronas Box 25 BRS JUL 12 Juan Lopez Petit Coronas Box 25 BRS JUN 13 Juan Lopez Petit Coronas Box 25 BRS OCT 12 Juan Lopez Seleccion No.1 Box 25 BRS MAR 13 Montecristo No.2 Box 25 BRS ABR 13 Romeo Y Julieta Mille Fleurs Box 25 BRS ARB 13 Romeo Y Julieta Romeo No.1 A/T Box 25 BRS ABR 13 San Cristobal De La Habana El Morro Box 25 BRS JUN 13 Sancho Panza Belicosos Box 25 BRS JUN 13 Sancho Panza Non Plus Box 25 BRS JUN 12 i would be interested too. I have the Montecristo No.2 Box 25 BRS ABR 13
PaulP Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Current System - 2003 on With this system of factory codes, all factories have a unique three capital letter code that can be changed monthly and yearly. With this system there are a substantial number of unique codes available, which means there need not be a duplicate code for many years. Consequently identifying and tracking them is virtually impossible. Only those with access to the code generator program would know codes in advance. Occasionally a code may be reported but even if correct, it is of limited use as it may only be valid for short time. Given the much improved quality control from 2005/6 on, the difference between factory output is reduced, making it less important to "chase factories". In addition, the rationalisation, improvement, and replacement of factories means that individual brands are now more likely to be made in a single factory, rather than in multiple factories. CubanCigarWebsite.com
ewipper Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 Current System - 2003 on With this system of factory codes, all factories have a unique three capital letter code that can be changed monthly and yearly. With this system there are a substantial number of unique codes available, which means there need not be a duplicate code for many years. Consequently identifying and tracking them is virtually impossible. Only those with access to the code generator program would know codes in advance. Occasionally a code may be reported but even if correct, it is of limited use as it may only be valid for short time. Given the much improved quality control from 2005/6 on, the difference between factory output is reduced, making it less important to "chase factories". In addition, the rationalisation, improvement, and replacement of factories means that individual brands are now more likely to be made in a single factory, rather than in multiple factories. CubanCigarWebsite.com This is less true than it was in the early 90s. IMHO. Late 90s box code hunting was a matter of survival because it was the wild west. But to say that "individual brands are now more likely to be made in a single factory, rather than in multiple factories" is belied by the facts Of the Montecristo vitolas, there is no factory consistency. Worse even for Romeo, Of the 22 or so Romeo vitolas, there is zero factory consistency. Hoyo, largely the same.
Smallclub Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 But to say that "individual brands are now more likely to be made in a single factory, rather than in multiple factories" is belied by the facts Of the Montecristo vitolas, there is no factory consistency. Worse even for Romeo, Of the 22 or so Romeo vitolas, there is zero factory consistency. Hoyo, largely the same. Definitely. Where has gone the concept of "casa matriz", btw? No one seems to remember it; has it ever been applied?
ewipper Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 Definitely. Where has gone the concept of "casa matriz", btw? No one seems to remember it; has it ever been applied? When cigaraficionado did their habanos feature they listed the mother factories. At least quai dorsay, which is produced for seita (owned by altadis) has a consistent headquarters.
sw15825 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Actually considering a box of juan lopez and not sure. I knew about the Churchills but I am racking the brain on Juan Lopez. Need a couple more boxes of the 2. BMU LTB Recent codes for Jl including Some BRS for pc and jl 1 and RMS, BMU and PSM for 1 and 2. I have #2s from BMU MAY 13 Same factory seems to roll Fonseca if that helps. BMU smoking very well imo.
ewipper Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 BMU LTB Recent codes for Jl including Some BRS for pc and jl 1 and RMS, BMU and PSM for 1 and 2. I have #2s from BMU MAY 13 Same factory seems to roll Fonseca if that helps. BMU smoking very well imo. Yes. Bmu was the code CA rated 94. Psm is closer to blend tho. Thx. Im so loaded up on jl ones from 2001-10 i cant justify 13s.
sw15825 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Yes. Bmu was the code CA rated 94. Psm is closer to blend tho. Thx. Im so loaded up on jl ones from 2001-10 i cant justify 13s. How do you find them different the PSM? From others?
ewipper Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 Bmu have less fruit and less depth down the middle. More accessible and better fresh.
sw15825 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Bmu have less fruit and less depth down the middle. More accessible and better fresh. Can't compare but your right it is good fresh. Do you know if JL 1 goes the same ? Also do you think PSM is the mother factory like SMG was so good in 07 and 08? 1
Smallclub Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 I just checked; my JL2 are PSM MAR 13 and they are 100% true to the blend IMHO. 2
ewipper Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 Can't compare but your right it is good fresh. Do you know if JL 1 goes the same ? Also do you think PSM is the mother factory like SMG was so good in 07 and 08? Mother factory is segui in guira de melena. Dirty secret for juan lopez is that segui does not make the best jl ones. Segui was rbt. Gdm has a second factory and it does juan lopez no 1s better. Buy all j lo 1 from there. Codes are smg tem lot through early 11. Very astute palate!!!! Fyi. Segui is rbt mpe and pra 1
sw15825 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 I just checked; my JL2 are PSM MAR 13 and they are 100% true to the blend IMHO. Mother factory is segui in guira de melena. Dirty secret for juan lopez is that segui does not make the best jl ones. Segui was rbt. Gdm has a second factory and it does juan lopez no 1s better. Buy all j lo 1 from there. Codes are smg tem lot through early 11. Very astute palate!!!! Fyi. Segui is rbt mpe and pra So if I am buy-in PSM for 2013 would be the best bet? Im talking no 1 as I am out and cannot stand it any longer.
ewipper Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 So if I am buy-in PSM for 2013 would be the best bet? Im talking no 1 as I am out and cannot stand it any longer. Check for bme first, had good luck w those. Problem is that 2011-2012 is spotty for tobacco. Give psm a shot. Id even split a box w u to sample. Psm are also densely packed. Sign of satisfying cigars and intelligent qc.
sw15825 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Check for bme first, had good luck w those. Problem is that 2011-2012 is spotty for tobacco. Give psm a shot. Id even split a box w u to sample. Psm are also densely packed. Sign of satisfying cigars and intelligent qc. I know underfilling happening way too much. Can you clarify spotty for tabacco? Box years or not good crop cured in 2012?
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