cigarros Posted December 21, 2011 Posted December 21, 2011 Sydney - Australia and Cuba: one is a robust democracy with a free-trade agenda and the other is a one-party state where the government sets prices and rations food. But that has not deterred Cuban Ambassador to Australia Pedro Monson Barata from accusing Canberra of ignoring trademark protection and trampling free trade. New tobacco retailing rules that from December 2012 stand to spoil the sales of Cuban cigars in Australia sparked Barata's tirade. Infinitely more worrisome than a dig from Havana is a High Court challenge to the world-first public health initiative from Philip Morris International Inc, which owns Marlboro and six more of the world's top 15 cigarette brands. Philip Morris complains that 'plain packaging turns tobacco products into a commodity, robbing Philip Morris Ltd of its ability to differentiate its products from competitor brands.' A year from now tobacco products must come in plain green packets. Logos and other brand imagery will be banished. Covering most of the packet will be graphic warnings of the health hazards of smoking. The new rules are aimed at cigarette smokers; cigar smokers, a minuscule sector of the market, are set to become collateral damage. 'I don't know whether I'll still be here next year,' said Ray Battistella of Cigarworld Australia, one of the nation's biggest cigar importers. 'I've spent half of this year worrying how I'm going to cope with these new regulations.' Battistella's emporium in Queensland's Gold Coast is a sight to behold. The temperature is kept at 18-20 degrees year-round and the humidity at 70-75 per cent. More than 380 brands are on display, not only from Cuba but from Nicaragua and elsewhere. According to the regulations, the tins, tubes and wooden boxes would have to be covered in plain paper. The bands on individual cigars would have to be snipped off or concealed. 'What it means is that customers who buy a selection wouldn't know what they were smoking in a month's time,' Battistella said. 'We're not going to know what's what.' Smoking has been under attack in Australia for nearly 100 years. High taxes, advertising bans and restricted sales have reduced smoking rates to among the lowest in the world. The industry response to the new rules is being watched by governments in Europe, Canada and New Zealand, where similar legislation could be promulgated. Melbourne retailer Alexanders Cigar Merchants is trusting that the government will relent and exempt the high-end cigar market from proscriptions intended for cigarettes. 'I don't believe we're going to get to that point,' said Danny Alexander, predicting that common sense would dictate a waiver for cigars. 'We've dozens, hundreds, of different brands. How are we going to distinguish them?' he asked. 'We could repackage them but why would the customer bother?' The big complaint from cigar sellers is that the new regulations are just one more reason for Australians to circumvent local retailers and order their smokes from overseas websites. 'They come straight to your door, and there are no warnings on them,' said Alexander. Source: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/business/news/article_1681802.php/Whiff-of-despair-circles-Australia-s-cigar-shops
KarlJ Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 'I don't believe we're going to get to that point,' said Danny Alexander, predicting that common sense would dictate a waiver for cigars. Common sense usually doesn't play a roll in political agenda, altleast not from where I stand. -Karl
El Presidente Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 A fair bit of water to go under the bridge before this plays out to its final conclusion.
tempbond Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 That's just crazy ! What are they going to do next? Take the labels off beer, wine and spirit bottles ? - Bartender, I'll have a scotch on the rocks please. - What kind sir ? - Ahhhh ... I can never remember the name ... you know ... the one with no label. - This one sir ? - No, no, the other one with no label - That one sir ? - No, I told you, the one with no label...
tempbond Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 Should they should put health warnings on bacon packages ? WARNING ADVISORY : This product will make your meal taste delicious and make your fat. Eat at your own risk.
cigcars Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 Should they should put health warnings on bacon packages ? WARNING ADVISORY : This product will make your meal taste delicious and make your fat. Eat at your own risk. Well put!!
Ken Gargett Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 Common sense usually doesn't play a roll in political agenda, altleast not from where I stand. -Karl karl, what you have said is not true. you should have said that common sense NEVER plays a role.
KarlJ Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 karl, what you have said is not true. you should have said that common sense NEVER plays a role. Sad but true.
cigcars Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 **So in other words (let me get this straight)all tobacco-related products are gonna come in a plain brown wrapper that just says, "Cigars"; then "Cigars - Honduras"; "Cigars - Cuba"; "Cigars - Nicaragua", etc. etc.??
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