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I have received a box from Rob of RyJ Churchill and am contemplating whether to send them back because of exactly this issue. The wrappers have zero sheen and some feel like sandpaper. Greg, very honestly and quickly, offered for return postage but I don't want the team to incur costs if it can be avoided, so will take a day or two to make the decision.

I recently bought a box of La Punta and have the same thing - both on the cigars and cedar sheet. I presume it's crystal formation during the fermentation process of sugar in tobacco leaves. However, I don't know anything about the science behind it, just a guess based on stuff I have read over the years.

I know lots of people don't rave about the Edmundos but I've been very lucky that all have been excellent. One of my favorite size and cigar. Never smoked a PE therefore I'm unable to compare them. The No 2 is another favorite of mine, though some have been exceptional while a few plain good.

If either band is lose or can be moved/dislodged without further wrapper damage slide one of them down. It'll hold the spilt wrapper in place. Then move it up as you smoke.

Never thought about it like you but interesting indeed. I've sent an email to H&F to see if they can shed some light on the issue and also if they would like the Falstaff for their collection.

Recently I've gone in the opposite direction, I used to smoke cigars very occasionally and mostly for very special days, with friends, to enjoy an evening in the sun etc but for the last 8 months I've been smoking almost daily. The cause? Possibly finally buying marevas and similar sized cigars that are very enjoyable. However, I intend to cut back down to 1-4/month and I've got more than enough to last me 15 years at that rate.

I called Frank today and he assures me they are more than 50 years old. He tells me minimum 50 but most likely 55. I told him I was thinking of keeping them for another 50 in his honour and he laughed. Told me to light them up. What's the story behind the NC? I've tried really hard but I'm getting nothing relating to those cigars from that era. I might offer the Falstaff to H&F as a gift if they wish to add it to their museum.

They absolutely are, I have recent ones at home. These ones might be as old as 50 years, he couldn't remember when he got them but he confirmed at least 40. He hasn't smoked for 55 years.

2 more photos if it helps. This time with the cigars included.

I had checked and can confirm neither had Hand Made written on them. The Punch has a plastic blue cap, the RyJ aluminium.

I knew it, you all rock. So much knowledge on this forum and I am grateful for it. No plans to smoke them, like you I, too, thought it would be great to keep them. Edit: I have a spare empty Punch tubo as the one pictured for anyone that wants it on the forum.

Awesome info, many thanks! TBH I had done some searches before posting but found very limited info. I found Freeman's connection and also the factory had moved from London to Bristol I believe and I thought I read it was about to be demolished. Maybe not.

More than value I am really interested in finding out a little more about the cigars themselves. I know some of you have encyclopaedic knowledge and am merely curious. Also I wanted to share with the community what I think might be a rare find. I opened the Cubans and they are in immaculate condition. The Tampa ones are still factory sealed. For the rest I am slowly increasing the humidity and they seem to be doing fine.

Indeed, he doesn't smoke or drink any more so I thought I would take him out for a steak. Any ideas on the cigars or their background?

I have a friend and got talking to his father. He told me he had stopped smoking about 40-50 years ago. Then he gave me these as a gift which have been sitting in a drawer at home. Some of them I don't recognise. The other Cubans are possibly the machine made ones? I would like to give him something in return, what value would you place on these?