sounddust Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/07/12/milit....ban/index.html I wonder if these supposed medical experts ever got pinned down in a firefight outnumbered 10-1 in the middle of the most inhospitable place on earth. Somehow, I doubt it.
First Lady Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/07/12/milit....ban/index.htmlI wonder if these supposed medical experts ever got pinned down in a firefight outnumbered 10-1 in the middle of the most inhospitable place on earth. Somehow, I doubt it. God I hate these so called experts.... they have to justify the existence by this dribble.... leave the boys who are fighting alone. Better yet send these idiots over to the war zone and than take everything away that they use for stress relief and see how they handle it... We had morons a few years ago trying to say drinking coffee was like doing cocaine and that coffee should be banned... she was laughed at but everyone and funny enough she was not heard of again Just my two cents worth
Fuzz Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 Pardon me, but what a load of bollocks! I'll bet these are the same so called "experts" who said a grenade's effective killzone was only a 10 foot radius. If having a smoke relieves some of the stress these guys go through in a day, I say let them have it. Until the military can figure out a better stress relief, leave those boys and girls alone.
sounddust Posted July 13, 2009 Author Posted July 13, 2009 Bollocks indeed. I'll not pretend to be able to comprehend what the men in Iraq and Afghanistan go through, but a stogie after a day of patrols and operations back when I was in the service was like a kiss from an angel.
SethG Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 It's the whole universal health care pitch, instead of people arguing over how much it's going to cost and thumbs-up or thumbs-down... they've got a bunch've idiots trying to cut smoking, fatty foods and sugar in order to cut overall costs. Expect more of the same! Look at who just got appointed to the CDC!!!
anacostiakat Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 Sadly this is all about the dollar and PC in my opinion. The claim is that 30% of service personnel smoke or use tobacco products which is about 10% more than the population as a whole.
CigarmanTim Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 I'd like to laugh it off but sadly these idiots are getting traction. They are now pushing for third hand smoke. Smoke that gets stuck in carpet and clothes....
jquest63 Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 Hogwash! Let soldiers make the decision for themselves. These reports almost never present the data, experimental design, assumptions, data acceptance criteria, risk factors, number of study subjects, etc. Just the "experts" opinion.
Warren Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 So let me get this straight. The Government or certain morons there in are worried that our brave men in the field who have to worry about bullets wizzing past past their heads and IED's wrecking their days should give up smoking because it's bad for their health. Yeah that makes perfect sense. It always happens that when a Government or organization gets too top heavy that the idiots who feel a little vulnerable tend to come up with stupid ideas that they think will secure their positions. What else do they have to do with their time.
thechenman Posted July 13, 2009 Posted July 13, 2009 IMHO this all comes down to money. The military's healthcare system is essentially a giant socialized medical program. While there are quasi-successful socialized medical programs in Canada, Taiwan and a handful of other countries, I don't think any such program would work in the U.S. Americans tend to be very vocal. It starts with you can't smoke because your smoking costs me (the taxpayer) money. If you didn't smoke, you would not get smoking related illnesses (anything from bronchitis to cancer), ergo my taxes would not be raised, and my tax dollars could go to something deemed more useful. If this comes to pass, eventually down the road people will be saying...no you can't eat jelly donuts, because Americans are overweight. Then wel'll see a jelly donut ban. Give me a break. Another example of too much government.
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