Ken Gargett Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 <H4 class="network media"> <A href="http://player.video.news.com.au/couriermail/#NL_Gh2u84Diz_F0ZDedhAFsGTxZLKCl2"> Watch this Video NOW! </H4>
Fatshotbud Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 <H4 class="network media"><A href="http://player.video.news.com.au/couriermail/#NL_Gh2u84Diz_F0ZDedhAFsGTxZLKCl2"> Watch this Video NOW! </H4> Must have been a comfort to the guy that his buddy was filming the whole thing -
Ken Gargett Posted January 23, 2009 Author Posted January 23, 2009 Must have been a comfort to the guy that his buddy was filming the whole thing - had not thought of that but spot on.
rckymtn22 Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 The guy is lucky the antlers didn't come into play.
Guest rob Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Ken, What do you mean "one for the good guys"?
shrink Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 This was staged. The guy wasn't trying that hard to get away; in fact he kept falling down so that the deer would "attack him". I suspect that this video was made in a preserve.
Ken Gargett Posted January 23, 2009 Author Posted January 23, 2009 This was staged. The guy wasn't trying that hard to get away; in fact he kept falling down so that the deer would "attack him". I suspect that this video was made in a preserve. shrink, you cynic! but it does raise the question of why no antlers? was it tame? is it playing? and rob, one for the good guys, i would have thought was obvious. poor bloody unarmed thing got one back. hard to feel sympathy given that the victim was presumably planning to shoot the thing from long distance. but i am banned from saying too much.
Guest rob Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Do you tag and release everything you catch Ken?
Ken Gargett Posted January 23, 2009 Author Posted January 23, 2009 Do you tag and release everything you catch Ken? no tagging programs in place for the fish i chase and the only fish i keep to eat these days are tailor, which can be in schools of squillions. pretty much everything else goes back. i am unable, due to the censorship employed by certain people, and agreements i have made with said person and which i intend attempting at least to keep, to make any further comment.
Guest rob Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 I respect your position on the matter. I also respect you cant talk openly. I wont engage any further. Just fyi: I am a hunter and a fisherman... and my philosophies are strict. Kill only what I intend to eat. Make the kill as quick and as painless as possible.
Warren Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Do you tag and release everything you catch Ken? Only after giving it a big old kiss.
harryleech Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 I respect your position on the matter.I also respect you cant talk openly. I wont engage any further. Just fyi: I am a hunter and a fisherman... and my philosophies are strict. Kill only what I intend to eat. Make the kill as quick and as painless as possible. Hi Rob, that's the way hunting should be and there should be more hunters like you. In Ireland (speaking as someone from a farming family) far too many 'hunters' are urban weekend warriors, lawyers, businessmen etc who go out and shoot or hunt on horses and have no intention of eating what they shoot, or how to make a quick, clean kill. They give good hunters a bad name and get the liberal namby-pambys (like me ) all riled up. I have no issue whatsoever with people who hunt ethically and eat what they shoot. If we all did it (I don't) our carbon footprint would be far smaller. That said, I can't help but have a wry smile at Kens video!
Hangfire Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 and rob, one for the good guys, i would have thought was obvious. poor bloody unarmed thing got one back. hard to feel sympathy given that the victim was presumably planning to shoot the thing from long distance. but i am banned from saying too much. I don't know if this was staged or not but, I believe most deer fight off predators primarily with their feet; much like horses. The antlers might come into play but doing so would expose the neck to a predator - not a good strategy overall. As to shooting from a great distance, he was using a bow and arrow. Most ethical hunters, as well as those with half a brain and a desire to actually take an animal will not shoot a bow outside of 60 yards max (180 feet) and most try for 30 yards. I too am a hunter who shoots only what I plan to eat. In addition, on any larger game I've taken (deer, American Bison and black bear) I also try to use as much of the animal as I can for other purposes - tanning the hide for various purposes, etc. It's a matter of respecting the animal. I haven't gone so far as learning to tie flys for fishing so I can harvest the feathers from birds I take but, that may come with time.
Colt45 Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 i am unable, due to the censorship employed by certain people, and agreements i have made with said person and which i intend attempting at least to keep, to make any further comment. nancy.
Colt45 Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 In addition, on any larger game I've taken (deer, American Bison and black bear) I also try to use as much of the animal as I can Hangfire, do you have a buffalo robe?
Hangfire Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 Colt To the extent that a buffalo robe is simply the skin tanned with the hair on, yes, I have two. The smaller one, taken from a spike bull, I use as a lap robe when I have a cold or am otherwise sick. (I was about to say feeling under the weather but then realized where some of these guys would take that. Anyway, the second one is from an 1800 pound bull and it is in storage. I plan to have a coat made from it.
Colt45 Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 ColtTo the extent that a buffalo robe is simply the skin tanned with the hair on, yes, I have two. That sounds great. Some day I'd like to have one as a big bed cover / blanket.
Hangfire Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 It would do the trick. Mine will almost cover a king size. If you decide to hunt one yourself, I can hook you up with a great place in KS where you can relive the 19th century while you do it.
Wiley Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 I think that buck was randy. He really wanted to get a piece of that guy, if you know what I mean.
Hangfire Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 I think that buck was randy. He really wanted to get a piece of that guy, if you know what I mean. Could be. There was a story in the paper soe years ago when I lived in Maine about a guy who doused himself in deer scent before he went hunting. That's deer estrus for the non hunters here. He went out and promptly fell asleep under his tree. When he woke up, he was bening mauled (antlers of course) by an enraged bull moose. Natural selection at its finest. That "hunter" is no longer with us.
rudder Posted January 26, 2009 Posted January 26, 2009 and rob, one for the good guys, i would have thought was obvious. poor bloody unarmed thing got one back. hard to feel sympathy given that the victim was presumably planning to shoot the thing from long distance. but i am banned from saying too much. Ken, We left no mourners
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