jdbrown Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 If you had to pick a box from each of the above to laydown for 10 plus years what would they be??
Guest rob Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Most will reach their peak before 10 years is up... but because you asked: Cohiba - Sig VI or 2006 Pyramides Partagas - 898 varnished Bolivar - Royal Corona RA - Estupendos 2006 Regional Punch - cant comment as I dont have much experience with these.
Colt45 Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Cohiba - Coronas Especiales Partagas - 898V Bolivar - Coronas Extra RA - Small Club Coronas Punch - RS12
The Wise Old owl Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 » » RA - Small Club Coronas » It's interesting that you mention RASCC for long term storage, they are often touted as very approachable early on... and the box I have from 2007 is just that. I wonder how they will age, and if anyone here has experience with older RASCC, it would be nice to hear about it! :-D
Colt45 Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 » » » » RA - Small Club Coronas » » » » It's interesting that you mention RASCC for long term storage, they are » often touted as very approachable early on... and the box I have from 2007 » is just that. I wonder how they will age, and if anyone here has » experience with older RASCC, it would be nice to hear about it! :-D I also have an '07 box, and I agree that they are pretty good now. But I do find that they have quite a bit of tannic bite, and I think they will be better down the line. I really don't know how much they'd gain from a full ten years, but I'd love to try some!
Miami101 Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Sorry mate I would never do this.......if it happens great...... 10 years is a life time.....and I don't want to get old, and have the doctor tell me no more smokes for you pop's....then sale my collect down the river...... Live fast: Smoke faster!
El Presidente Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 » If you had to pick a box from each of the above to laydown for 10 plus » years what would they be?? Cohiba Siglo VI or IV. (The right box). Partagas 898 Varnished Bolivar Coronas Gigantes Ramon Allones Estupendo (PCC Regional) Punch Ruper Robusto (PCC Regional)
Mike33 Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 » » » » » » RA - Small Club Coronas » » » » » » » It's interesting that you mention RASCC for long term storage, they are » » often touted as very approachable early on... and the box I have from » 2007 » » is just that. I wonder how they will age, and if anyone here has » » experience with older RASCC, it would be nice to hear about it! :-D » » I also have an '07 box, and I agree that they are pretty good now. But I » do find that they have » quite a bit of tannic bite, and I think they will be better down the » line. » I really don't know how much they'd gain from a full ten years, but I'd » love to try some! I am smoking through a box of '98 RASCC and they are simply sublime. Much different than fresh examples in that the "edge" is not there and the spice has died down. But, there is much more complexity and depth to it. However, I think the RAG would be my choice for a box to lay down for long-term aging and that is what I am doing with a box of '07 I bought. I can't wait till I crack that box open in 7-8 years :-D
shrink Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Cohiba - Lanceros Partagas - 898 varnished Bolivar - Coronas Gigantes RA - Estupendos 2006 Regional Punch - Royal Seleccion No. 11
aavkk Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 I love threads like this. It's interesting how Punch seems to have people in different camps and Im surprised that several experienced members have foregone the SS#1's.
El Presidente Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 » I love threads like this. It's interesting how Punch seems to have people » in different camps and Im surprised that several experienced members have » foregone the SS#1's. I was soooooooo tempted to put Punch Super Seleccion No 1. Yet those Punch Super Robusto have something in them which screams "dirty sex in years to come".
Ken Gargett Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 something in them which screams "dirty sex in years to » come". so basically sex with an old person who no longer washes. nothing much ever changes for you, does it?
El Presidente Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 » so basically sex with an old person who no longer washes. » nothing much ever changes for you, does it? Dear ken...if that is the image that the term conjures up for you.....no wonder you are single
shrink Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 so basically sex with an old person who no longer washes. Ken: if you don't think that sex is dirty, well... You're not doing it right! :-P
El Presidente Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 » so basically sex with an old person who no longer washes. » » Ken: if you don't think that sex is dirty, well... » » You're not doing it right! :-P ...or just not doing it :rotfl:
Ken Gargett Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 » » so basically sex with an old person who no longer washes. » » nothing much ever changes for you, does it? » » Dear ken...if that is the image that the term conjures up for you.....no » wonder you are single i was refering only to the literal translation of your post. if, in fact, you meant something else, you had every opportunity to say so. i can't be responsible for your subconscious or your stated kinky proclivities. bad enough having to watch them in action, not - i hasten to add before shrink again tries to put words in my mouth, so to speak, - that i have not tried to cover both eyes and ears.
drdna Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Cohiba - current stock not suited to long term aging, smoke after 2-4 years. Partagas coronas junior or serie du connoisseur Bolivar Petit Coronas Ramon Allones specially selected Punch Punch
El Presidente Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 » Cohiba - current stock not suited to long term aging, smoke after 2-4 » years. I will disagree with you that one ;-) Sure, in the main they will smoke very well in 5 years, but I come across boxes which are not the norm, boxes blended for the long term. They are rare but they do come through.
asc Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 » Partagas serie du connoisseur Would others agree with this for all 3 lines?
rallones Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 » Most will reach their peak before 10 years is up... Depends entirely on how you store them. I have 10-year old (or older) smokes that are nowhere near their peak (e.g., Partagas Tres Petit Corona, Cohiba Millennium Piramides, Montecristo Millennium Robustos). The Partagas TPCs are from '97 and they are H-Bomb strong.
aavkk Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 » » Most will reach their peak before 10 years is up... » » Depends entirely on how you store them. I have 10-year old (or older) » smokes that are nowhere near their peak (e.g., Partagas Tres Petit Corona, » Cohiba Millennium Piramides, Montecristo Millennium Robustos). The » Partagas TPCs are from '97 and they are H-Bomb strong. Are you referring to how sealed (ziplocked or shrinkwrapped) they are and whether we are talking DB's vs Cabs? Have you compared boxes from the same code ziplocked vs non ziplocked or cab vs dress box that you have aged for a number of years? I would love to hear thoughts on the different characteristics the cigars had.
rallones Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 » » » Most will reach their peak before 10 years is up... » » » » Depends entirely on how you store them. I have 10-year old (or older) » » smokes that are nowhere near their peak (e.g., Partagas Tres Petit » Corona, » » Cohiba Millennium Piramides, Montecristo Millennium Robustos). The » » Partagas TPCs are from '97 and they are H-Bomb strong. » » Are you referring to how sealed (ziplocked or shrinkwrapped) they are and » whether we are talking DB's vs Cabs? Have you compared boxes from the » same code ziplocked vs non ziplocked or cab vs dress box that you have » aged for a number of years? I would love to hear thoughts on the » different characteristics the cigars had. I am referring to Ziploc-ing bags, either dress or cabs, to reduce (or eliminate) the cigars' interaction with air. My experience has been that Ziploc-ed boxes/cigars retain the aromas/oils/essence much better than non-Ziploc-ed. The cigars age much more slowly, but they are much more balanced (at least to my palate) when I do smoke them. I haven't tried shrink-wrapping, but expect that it would extend the aging horizon even farther than Ziploc-ing. Keep in mind, I Ziploc because I am trying to slow down my cigars' aging as much as I can. At the pace I smoke, I have enough stock to last until around 2040. I have to store/age my smokes this way, or they'll expire before I get to all of them.
scroggers Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 OK not to thread jack but this question interests me as well. I was looking for a cigar to smoke with each of my kids when the graduate and or get married since I have 7 kids the cigars would be aging for quite some time. It seems to be the general consensus that aging a box more than ten years is not recommended. So my question would be Would it be a waste of time to try this? Which will hold up to and benefit the most from aging. Right now I'm thinking Siglo VI or Esplendido or possibly Hoyo DC or Lusitaia. Also Should I wait to purchase the smokes until my oldest is about to graduate (he graduates in 5 years and my youngest is only 8 months old) or go ahead and purchase now and take my chance with the more than ten year rule???
Claudius Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 » OK not to thread jack but this question interests me as well. I was looking » for a cigar to smoke with each of my kids when the graduate and or get » married since I have 7 kids the cigars would be aging for quite some » time. It seems to be the general consensus that aging a box more than ten » years is not recommended. So my question would be Would it be a waste of » time to try this? Which will hold up to and benefit the most from aging. » Right now I'm thinking Siglo VI or Esplendido or possibly Hoyo DC or » Lusitaia. Also Should I wait to purchase the smokes until my oldest is » about to graduate (he graduates in 5 years and my youngest is only 8 » months old) or go ahead and purchase now and take my chance with the more » than ten year rule??? Hi! 7 kids! Wow! That's the most I've ever heard of from someone I've actually talked to. Our 3rd is due in 3 weeks, and we'll stop after that. I dont think there's a "10 year rule". Case in point, G and I smoked a LGC Médaille d'Or No 1 (or was it a 3?) from the 70s last month, and it was a fantastic smoke! And I dont say that lightly. First time I tasted marzipan in a cigar! I will, however, agree that most cigars you buy "vintage" are just old cigars, the ones no one else wanted, forgotten stuff, often not stored that well all the time over the decades. However, if YOU buy fresh and age in perfect conditions, ziplocked, vacuum selaed or shrink wrapped (slowed aging), I'm sure you'll end up with fantastic cigars in 10, 20 or even 30 years provided that they are good to start with. Personally, I look for "rich" cigars with "substance" for aging: the kind that leaves thick layers of aftertaste for hours, that has a lot of body and also soem strength. 898V spring to mind for sure, but also Sir Winstons, RA Estupendos (very high expectations for those), that kind of cigar. A tasteless volado roll like a Hoyo DC will be gone in 5 years (personally I dont even bother smoking them at all :-D). Surprisingly, small cigars like PSDC3s or RASCC can age long and become delicious, too: I've smoked a 1988 PSDC3 last year, and it was all you could expect from it, and then some. The bite of the young cigar was completely gone as you'd expect, but the cigar had not mellowed into a shadow of its former self or anything like that, it was still a powerful cigar, simply more complex and very present still. A 1972 RyJ Clemenceau I've smoked was expired, though. It took smoking 4 inches of it to get some RyJ profile. You could say it's a crapshot, I guess, but the better the initial cigar, the better the aged result.
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