Hoyo De Monterrey ABS March 07 Dissection

[Lanthor]

» Notice

» the intentional use of additional Ligero towards the final third?

»

» » Ligero 4 Grams

»

» While the above tells one skeletal story, the picture tells another in

» relation of how the cigar was blended.

So Prez is it safe to say a little more pepper towards the end is intended? I have the understanding that ligero is heavy in nicotine.

I always just assumed the spice towards the end of a habano was due to heat and the built up 'tar' passing through the tobacco, perhaps a little of both?

Do you think this is just by chance on this particular cigar or is this blend ratio pretty standard?

Thanks, obviously interesting subject for me.

Mike

[tapewormboy]

Cool observation Prez!

More generally, are there any recent production DCs with enough strength to age for 5 or 10+ years? All the recently samples of RAG, Hoyo DC, Lusi, and SLR DCs seem only medium to me. Perhaps a bit on the mild side to last the journey.

[Caesar]

» Cool observation Prez!

»

» More generally, are there any recent production DCs with enough strength

» to age for 5 or 10+ years? All the recently samples of RAG, Hoyo DC,

» Lusi, and SLR DCs seem only medium to me. Perhaps a bit on the mild side

» to last the journey.

[crasmith]

Very interesting. I was wondering the same thing, if the power at the end is just a build up of tar and nicotine? Do a lot of blends look like this or just larger sizes? :-)

[Colt45]

Great stuff as always.

[Fatshotbud]

» Great stuff as always.

Gonna be a ***** to smoke it now though -- got pipe?

[havanaclub7]

Maybe I would have been a scientist instead of a lawyer (no booing please!) if we would have dissected cigars instead of frogs in my high school science class!

[Sandman]

Very interesting indeed. Has this always been this way with the DC, or are you suggesting this is something new?

[MaltPointer]

» Intriguing...but if I'm looking at the cigar correctly, the head appears

» to be at the top of the picture, right? If that's the case, then that

» extra half leaf of ligero resides at the foot or the initial portion of

» the cigar.

»

» Am I seeing it upside down?

»

» Wilkey

THANK YOU, Wilkey . . . I thought I was the only one seeing it that way.

[El Presidente]

Wilkey I have simply placed the Wrapper upside down in the photo.

The additional Ligero was indeed in the final half to 1/3rd of the filler.

I will do the same for a series of cigars. Conduct a review and then dissect one from the same box.

[Ginseng]

» Wilkey I have simply placed the Wrapper upside down in the photo.

»

» The additional Ligero was indeed in the final half to 1/3rd of the filler.

»

» I will do the same for a series of cigars. Conduct a review and then

» dissect one from the same box.

Excellent!

Thank you for that clarification. Now the question then becomes...was this a fluke? Did this particular roller stick a half leaf there to make up a soft bunch, or are the blend instructions sufficiently detailed to specify something as nuanced as the placement of a half leaf of a particular type.

Wilkey

[El Presidente]

You don't want me to break open another one do you

OK I will. But may have to be Monday.

[Ginseng]

» You don't want me to break open another one do you

»

» OK I will. But may have to be Monday.

Oh god, no! Don't do it man.

Rather, send me a cab and let me be your hatchet man. I might be too broken up to take pictures though. :-P

But seriously, I'm perfectly satisfied accumulating this knowledge a bit at a time. Let's say the next time you sense such a clear and obvious transition, that you take the opportunity then to dissect.

I think it would be as insightful and far less heart-wrenching to see if any of the insiders could comment a bit more on the level of detail or resolution blend/bunch/construction instructions provide for.

Wilkey

[El Presidente]

» I think it would be as insightful and far less heart-wrenching to see if

» any of the insiders could comment a bit more on the level of detail or

» resolution blend/bunch/construction instructions provide for.

»

» Wilkey

Wilkey I suspect that the real answer will come from what we are doing especially if we are analysing same box stock.

I have no problems dissecting another. Friday afternoon here. Staff BBQ to cook and then the normal aray of local reprobates shuffling in for wine and cigars. Will need to leave until Monday ;-)

[havanaclub7]

» Wilkey I suspect that the real answer will come from what we are doing

» especially if we are analysing same box stock.

»

» I have no problems dissecting another. Friday afternoon here. Staff BBQ to

» cook and then the normal aray of local reprobates shuffling in for wine and

» cigars. Will need to leave until Monday ;-)

You going to grill some tuna chops from your most recent fishing expedition?

[El Presidente]

For those that have not read it, check out this link for the first review.

[link=http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/board_entry.php?id=77393&page=0&order=last_answer&descasc=DESC&category=all]Link[/link]

There was a build up of strength from the half way point in this cigar and I proposed in the review that there was a deliberate use of Ligero in the final third while an absence of it in the opening.

In the photo of the dissected HDM DC I have not included the Binder.

Imagine smoking that cigar and the proportions segment by segment. Notice the intentional use of additional Ligero towards the final third?

Now overall the figures go like this:

Wrapper 2 Grams

Binder 4 Grams

Volado 2 Grams

Seco 6 Grams

Ligero 4 Grams

While the above tells one skeletal story, the picture tells another in relation of how the cigar was blended.

[Ginseng]

» For those that have not read it, check out this link for the first review.

»

» [link=http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/board_entry.php?id=77393&page=0&order=last_answer&descasc=DESC&category=all]Link[/link]

»

» There was a build up of strength from the half way point in this cigar and

» I proposed in the review that there was a deliberate use of Ligero in the

» final third while an absence of it in the opening.

»

» In the photo of the dissected HDM DC I have not included the Binder.

»

»

»

» Imagine smoking that cigar and the proportions segment by segment. Notice

» the intentional use of additional Ligero towards the final third?

»

» Now overall the figures go like this:

»

» Wrapper 2 Grams

» Binder 4 Grams

» Volado 2 Grams

» Seco 6 Grams

» Ligero 4 Grams

»

» While the above tells one skeletal story, the picture tells another in

» relation of how the cigar was blended.

Intriguing...but if I'm looking at the cigar correctly, the head appears to be at the top of the picture, right? If that's the case, then that extra half leaf of ligero resides at the foot or the initial portion of the cigar.

Am I seeing it upside down?

Wilkey