Colt45 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I had a bottle over the weekend. As it was opened last minute, the first sips were very oaky. This did subside, and what I found myself thinking was that even though this is nearly half shiraz, it really reminded me of a nice bordeaux. Dark berries / currants, a bit of cedar and graphite. Just the right amount of vanilla from the oak - the nose really had me thinking St. Julien. Very well balanced with the fruit and tannin in harmony. I really enjoyed it, but sadly, my last bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Hi Colt. The 389 -1998 is a great drop........I'm down to my last dozen.:-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 » Hi Colt. » » The 389 -1998 is a great drop........I'm down to my last dozen.:-D Trev you gifted me some 389 from 1998 and it was superb. Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Gargett Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 almost always a cracker. 98 one of the very best years, may be marginally behind 1990, 1991, 1996 and 2002. oddly, the only one that didn't excite me was the current 04 which should have been sensational. often called poor man's grange as some of the oak used for grange then comes here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 i'll have to get some 389 sounds awesome, funny you should say that about the 04 ken.. I was going to buy a couple of bottles today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMH Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I love 389, slightly prefer the '96 to '98. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Gargett Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 » i'll have to get some 389 sounds awesome, funny you should say that about » the 04 ken.. I was going to buy a couple of bottles today! some people love the 04. worth trying a bottle to see if you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45 Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 » Hi Colt. » » The 389 -1998 is a great drop........I'm down to my last dozen.:-D I feel much better now......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinLightning Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 389 has been a staple in my house for the last few years. The Koonunga Hill Shiraz/Cab is good too, and very inexpensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45 Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 » The Koonunga Hill Shiraz/Cab is good too, and very inexpensive! I used to drink this one quite a bit, until they started considering it one of their "age-worthy" wines, and raised the price. I still buy it when I see it on sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 » » The Koonunga Hill Shiraz/Cab is good too, and very inexpensive! » i don't know if it's very good but it's definately cheap! Cam - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 » 389 has been a staple in my house for the last few years. » » The Koonunga Hill Shiraz/Cab is good too, and very inexpensive! I think that the Penfolds Bin 28 Shiraz are their best value (if you like a straight Shiraz ...) .....not as cheap, but they age and improve, and improve, and improve. Worst thing is you have to buy heaps..........;-) (Currently occupiers a good proportion of my cellar). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CigarZen Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 » . often called poor man's grange as some of the oak used for grange then comes here. Ken -- is this still true? It appears they have dropped this description from recent vintages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Gargett Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 » » . often called poor man's grange as some of the oak used for grange then » comes here. » » Ken -- is this still true? It appears they have dropped this description » from recent vintages. might be wrong but not sure that they ever used it themselves. more something that others used to describe it. still hear it occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45 Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 » » » . often called poor man's grange as some of the oak used for grange » then » » comes here. » » » » Ken -- is this still true? It appears they have dropped this » description » » from recent vintages. » » » might be wrong but not sure that they ever used it themselves. more » something that others used to describe it. still hear it occasionally. If you go to the Penfolds website, and go to the tasting notes for Bin 389 (it is a pdf download), it does state that components of the wine are aged in barrels from the previous year's Grange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Gargett Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 » » » » might be wrong but not sure that they ever used it themselves. more » » something that others used to describe it. still hear it occasionally. » » If you go to the Penfolds website, and go to the tasting notes for Bin 389 » (it is a pdf download), » it does state that components of the wine are aged in barrels from the » previous year's Grange. what i was referred to was the use of the term, 'poor man's grange'. i doubt that they have ever used that formally but it did come partly from the use of old grange oak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Gargett Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 » » what i was referred to was the use of the term, 'poor man's grange'. i » » doubt that they have ever used that formally but it did come partly » from » » the use of old grange oak. » » KG, I understand - their write-up is somewhat unclear. Here is an » excerpt: » thanks for that. was not aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I agree kelvin the 01 is a great year, i have a couple of 98 bottles, suprisingly inconsistent for the age. Cam - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skid11 Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 » » Hi Colt. » » » » The 389 -1998 is a great drop........I'm down to my last dozen.:-D » » I feel much better now......... Ha ha :lol: See you haven't lost your Wit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45 Posted November 3, 2007 Author Share Posted November 3, 2007 » Ha ha :lol: See you haven't lost your Wit Only half of it :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CigarZen Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 THANKS COLT!!:-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45 Posted November 15, 2008 Author Share Posted November 15, 2008 » what i was referred to was the use of the term, 'poor man's grange'. i » doubt that they have ever used that formally but it did come partly from » the use of old grange oak. KG, I understand - their write-up is somewhat unclear. Here is an excerpt: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelvin Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 » » what i was referred to was the use of the term, 'poor man's grange'. i » » doubt that they have ever used that formally but it did come partly » from » » the use of old grange oak. » » KG, I understand - their write-up is somewhat unclear. Here is an » excerpt: » » i've heard about that before, I recently had a 01 bottle, it was smooth and nice, would love to try a 98 or an 02. o/t a little bit, anyone been to the Whisky conventions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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