JohnnyTex Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Now this may be a noob question, but I need the help regardless of how dumb I'm about to sound. I got a box of ERDM Choix Supremes two weeks ago (thanks Lisa,Smithy,Rob:waving: ) and even though Tampa is about to yell at me, I gave one a go right out of the box. I know I need to give them 30 days (at least), but the taste was great, but the burn was crazy. I can't help to think that it's my fault because I keep the humi @ about 70-71% humidity. Question is do you think that my humidity is to high, or did is it just the luck of the draw (pun intended)? The draw was really smooth, almost too smooth, perhaps underfilled? Anyway give me some suggestions brothers, I'll try them out and let ya know. Tampa, be gentle, lol! :-P Thanks for any advice bros. Regards, Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genevapics Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 We have all been there, done that. Don't sweat it. A couple of points about the burn: 1.) After the long trip, your cigar needed time to acclimate itself to its new surroundings. That is where the 30, 60 or even 90 days comes in to effect. 2.) IMO, your rH is way too high. I am down around 60%-64% in a 300 ct humidor. I don't obsess about the numbers anymore, I go mainly by feel. But for the most part, that is where I like my humidity. I find at this level, my cigars smoke like a dream. 3.) Don't worry about Tampa when he yells at you. I have been at the other end of his wrath (indirectly as a noob) before. Listen to what he is saying though. Most of his words are pearls of wisdom. They should be, it comes from experience. Finally, once you get set up and have enough cigars in your collection, you will be able to let those cigars sit for a long time without smoking one. Patience my brother, patience. Above all else... enjoy the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMH Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I'd try dropping the humidity to 65%, give or take a point or two. I've found that when the humidity gets up to around 70% the wrapper and binder tends to burn unevenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyTex Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 Thats what I love about this forum. Thanks Geneva and JMH. I know Tampa is full of knowledge, and I knew I was going against his instructions before I went through with it. I think I need to get a 30+ wine cooler soon because it's already in the 80's F and that in turn keeping my humidor at about 73 F/ 70-73 rh. Lol, I knew it was my fault, but needed my bros to tell me. Thanks again. Don't worry fellas, any ribbings are always taken in jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigorishSLC Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I agree...I think your rh is too high for habanos. I also think that most of what Tampa says is gleaned from years of experience enjoying habanos. I also think there is no substitute for personal experience. You bought em, you can smoke em however you please. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrink Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 JohnnyTex wrote: I know Tampa is full of knowledge.... Gee, I've never heard it put so... so diplomatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cam Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 :-D Tampas full of something no youre right he is full of knowledge everyone here is, ive had the same problem with newer cigars before, this one not paticularly I have a horrible habit of accidentally tasting them straight away if they are not EL, but regretting it afterwards. I dont think your humidity is too high the general opinion seems to be keep it at a level below 75 and above the 65 mark but dont fret that too much as long as its not fluctuating crazily all the time. I can also suggest let them settle for a couple of weeks at least before raiding the new box, this seems to allow the new cigars to adjust to the new humidity and temperature. Not advice really just voicing my opinion, If you need any more help I suggest Jimmy, Tampa or El Prez. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 » 2.) IMO, your rH is way too high. I am down around 60%-64% in a 300 ct » humidor. I don't obsess about the numbers anymore A good piece of advice is to concur with what genevapics has said, generally you can feel for the health of ur cigars, but by no means squeeze the **** outta em, just allow them a nice touchy feely every now and again, its the best way to describe it, using this method combined with your own knowledge of your cigars youll be able to seek the correct operational humidity required to keep them at a healthy level, a level you desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa1257 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Johnny, Being the kinder, and gentle person that I am, fear not about me yelling at you. :cool: The burn issue is probably due to the Rh being too high together with the cigars not having adequate resting time after being stuffed into the belly of an airplane to get to you. Texas is another one of the Southern states that usually has high humidity, so when you store your cigars at that high of an Rh (anything above 65%) it takes little time when you take the cigar out of the humidor to absorb the external humidity. The higher the humidity, usually the greater risk of burn issues. For the cigar to burn correctly, remember that the entire cigar needs to be stable (Filler, Binder and wrapper). Many times cigars are just way to wet from where ever they came from and the 30-60 days wait is to allow them the time to adjust to a stable condition. I would suggest that you drop your humidity down to around the 63-65% range, and I would believe that you would notice quite a bit of your burn issues being a thing of the past. Good luck! Tampa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 » I think I need to get a 30+ wine cooler soon because it's already in the 80's F » and that in turn keeping my humidor at about 73 F/ 70-73 rh. Tex, if you're not already, try using some humidification beads, or crystal cat litter - without adding any water. They should help bring down the humidity while you're deciding on a cooled unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idesign Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I find that if you're weak (like me) and have to try one, it's best to fire up immediately after receiving shipment. Once you lay them down, they take at least a month to acclimate. But usually, right off the truck, they're good to go....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfg2nrg Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I would suggest you lower the RH to 60-65 let them sit there for a month and see for yorself. I have gotten cigars that were great right off the truck and were fantastic after a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyTex Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 Thanks for the suggestions fellas. I think I am going to try to lower the rh and then let them sit another 3 weeks before I give another one a try. I think I am going to invest in a wine cooler, because it's to damn hot here and running the AC low gets expensive:-| Thanks again guys, I'll let everyone know how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Hi there. When I first started this hobby of ours I kept my first box at 70% and started smoking them a week after I got them and I was truely dissapointed. Luckily I was schooled in the proper ways to store my cigars and waited. Well let me tell you that it made all the difference in the world. I was thinking to myself, this cannot possibly been the same cigar that I was smoking before. Get your humidity down to 65 and wait 30-60 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 » that I was smoking before. Get your humidity down to 65 and wait 30-60 Dont lose sleep over humidity, some people swear by constantly monitoring the temperatue and humidity, also known as a "humidity warrior" although there's nothing wrong with doing this, your cigars will be fine when kept under 73-75 maximum, I have left New Zealand for 6 months and already have reports the humidity in my cabinet is up to 78. You can, as I have said previously feel for the health of your cigars although there is no need to squeeze the **** out of them, they will be fine at 70-75. Voilà Cam - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 » ...... they will be fine at 70-75. They won't be hurt , but there will more than likely still be burn / draw issues. Also, at 75% and above, I'd be concerned about mold as well. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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