rascalmonkey Posted August 9, 2005 Posted August 9, 2005 what's the word on these? how's the flavor profile compare with previous RyJ EL's???? i'm hoping it's the 2001 robusto redux....
cvm4 Posted August 9, 2005 Posted August 9, 2005 I've read it tastes very similar...But, every smoker is different ;-)
rumrogue Posted August 9, 2005 Posted August 9, 2005 Had one of these the other day. OK but nothing special out of the box. Too early for it?
cvm4 Posted August 9, 2005 Posted August 9, 2005 » Too early for it? Exactly . But I guess if you can afford it, torch one early.
Guest km13 Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 I've got a box but I'm not going to crack it open for a year.
habanohal Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 » I've got a box but I'm not going to crack it open for a year. Not even to drool all over them??
El Presidente Posted August 15, 2005 Posted August 15, 2005 They don't look ready or smell ready. Ken fleeced me for one last Thursday so he will be reviewing shortly. I'm guessing lot's of roast meat and fruitcake :cool:
Ken Gargett Posted August 15, 2005 Posted August 15, 2005 For me, the second of the three LE’s from 2005. If ever a cigar could be called cute, this would have to be it. Similar appearance to the Upmann Mag 50 in colour and texture (no surprise and something that could be said pretty much about the entire range of LE’s), possibly even a smidge darker in colour. An oily, soft leather appearance and an oily texture, quite seductive. The smell pre-lighting, was a ripe, charry, chocolate character. Very alluring. I really took a lot of care and attention to this when lighting it to make certain that if there were similar crooked burn problems, then it was a cigar-only problem and not of my making (I have a suspicion that sometimes a little care at this stage can prevent some of these problems - not that I am holding up my hands to it for the Upmann Mag 50). Whether that helped or whether this is just a cigar with better construction, who knows, but the burn was as close to perfect as one could hope for. Burn was slow, all told this little fellow took a good hour of thoroughly enjoyable slow smoking. Draw was immaculate. The first time I needed to de-ash, the cigar was half gone. I really think that if this is typical, and no reason why not, then it augurs extremely well for the next two to five years. Probably let it settle for 12 months before I’d start on them, if I had them in the humidor. Flavours were a terrific mix - coffee bean, dark chocolate, a hint of earth, espresso notes - thoroughly enjoyable. There was a surprising amount of power here right through but the thing never appeared as unbalanced. Whether or not this is a problem (not for me), but there really wasn’t that mild creaminess that one associates with R&J. It did move that way for the last half but was still much stronger than I expect from this maker. So, if you want a typical R&J, then this may not be for you. If you want a good, and I would suggest reasonably typical LE style, this is a cracker. But no way would I have picked this as R&J if blind. If you like LE’s, and I know that they get mixed reactions from members, I’d be putting a box away. Think that they are better value than the Upmanns for me. 92 with the potential to edge up another couple in time (and 92 for this makes me think I may have been a tad generous for the Upmann). A good chance that down the track, we’ll look back at this as an integral part of the LE series.
Mikey Posted August 15, 2005 Posted August 15, 2005 You pretty much nailed the flavors,Ken.I was amazed at how balanced this stick was and how it never got bitter even down to the nub.It burned great with none of the "fireproof properties" that some the other EL's seem to possess.I'm really pleased with these and I'm sure these will be awesome in the future. Now,since you nailed the flavors on these,I'm wary to try my Mag 50's...not really the right time of year for fruitcake...:-D (is it ever??):-P I'm hoping that the Mag 50's will be somewhere near as good as the RyJ's are.
Ken Gargett Posted August 15, 2005 Posted August 15, 2005 fruitcake is a positive! i think leave the upmanns for a bit. they are good but i thought this just ahead at the moment.
Mel Posted August 16, 2005 Posted August 16, 2005 » » ahead at the mofruitcake is a positive! » i think leave the upmanns for a bit. they are good but i thought this just ment. Fruitcake is one of the most deliteful flavors in a cigar for me. Rob describes the RA Gigantes as stewed christmas pudding -fruit and I love them.
Fatshotbud Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 » For me, the second of the three LE’s from 2005. If ever a cigar could be » called cute, this would have to be it. Similar appearance to the Upmann » Mag 50 in colour and texture (no surprise and something that could be said » pretty much about the entire range of LE’s), possibly even a smidge darker » in colour. An oily, soft leather appearance and an oily texture, quite » seductive. The smell pre-lighting, was a ripe, charry, chocolate » character. Very alluring. I really took a lot of care and attention to » this when lighting it to make certain that if there were similar crooked » burn problems, then it was a cigar-only problem and not of my making (I » have a suspicion that sometimes a little care at this stage can prevent » some of these problems - not that I am holding up my hands to it for the » Upmann Mag 50). Whether that helped or whether this is just a cigar with » better construction, who knows, but the burn was as close to perfect as » one could hope for. Burn was slow, all told this little fellow took a good » hour of thoroughly enjoyable slow smoking. Draw was immaculate. The first » time I needed to de-ash, the cigar was half gone. I really think that if » this is typical, and no reason why not, then it augurs extremely well for » the next two to five years. Probably let it settle for 12 months before » I’d start on them, if I had them in the humidor. » Flavours were a terrific mix - coffee bean, dark chocolate, a hint of » earth, espresso notes - thoroughly enjoyable. There was a surprising » amount of power here right through but the thing never appeared as » unbalanced. » Whether or not this is a problem (not for me), but there really wasn’t » that mild creaminess that one associates with R&J. It did move that way » for the last half but was still much stronger than I expect from this » maker. So, if you want a typical R&J, then this may not be for you. If you » want a good, and I would suggest reasonably typical LE style, this is a » cracker. But no way would I have picked this as R&J if blind. » If you like LE’s, and I know that they get mixed reactions from members, » I’d be putting a box away. Think that they are better value than the » Upmanns for me. 92 with the potential to edge up another couple in time » (and 92 for this makes me think I may have been a tad generous for the » Upmann). A good chance that down the track, we’ll look back at this as an » integral part of the LE series. I am toast - thanks for the review.
shrink Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 I have smoked three out of six samples, and I am disappointed. They are nowhere as good as the RyJ 2001 EL, but then, what is? I agree that there is some potential here, but it may take a couple years to reach it. Try a 2004 Hermosos EL, if you want flavor.
The Privateer Posted January 17, 2006 Posted January 17, 2006 Thanks for the review....very tempting indeed
El Presidente Posted January 18, 2006 Posted January 18, 2006 Shrink. I have smoked a couple of these last week (same codes as kens) and they were muted. Slap bang in the middle of a sick period. At least a year away.
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