Havana Post castro

[connoiseur29]

What are your visions of Hava after Castro passes?

What will happen to cigars?

Will the Padrons reclaim their land?

Will Davidoff return?

Or will everything just tumble into chaos?

[Black Plague]

» What are your visions of Hava after Castro passes?

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» What will happen to cigars?

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» Will the Padrons reclaim their land?

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» Will Davidoff return?

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» Or will everything just tumble into chaos?

The line of succession is pretty well laid out. Though Raul might not have the personal charisma of his brother, I don't foresee the commies being in any danger and the embargo will probably remain in place. Business as usual will continue in Cuba, barring a popular revolt.

[habanohal]

Chaos it will be. There were some big articles with Padron that they say they will not be going back to Cuba.

Prices will skyrocket, for demand will outrun supply ( if the embargo ends)

You know that every Tom, **** & Harry will be buying atleast 1 Cuban Cigar. Mostly for the years of mystique, since it has been illegal for so long. Even if they are not cigar smokers.

[skindiver]

You know what? This is all just speculation, as nobody can possibly know what may happen upon the death of Fidel.I can guarantee you a large funeral in Havana.After that,who knows?None of us here,I'm about sure.

I've spent a good part of my life in the last ten years between the USA and Cuba and I would not venture a guess as to the political changes that may occur or what impact they may have on the Cuban cigar industry.If anyone here has supernatural powers as to predict this outcome,please elighten the rest of us.

[shrink]

It is my hope that in the years following Castro, that more pragmatic politicians in both Cuba and the U.S. will see the wisdom of improving relations, and lowering trade barriers. Despite the enormous political influence of the Cuban emigres, it will become easier for American leadership to offer incentives to Cuba to liberalize politically and economically. Without Castro, the Cuban administration will need to improve the domestic economic situation to remain in power. The Cuban people will not suffer endless oppression and poverty when the face of the revolution is gone. Some of the internal pressure will come from American big business, which has long been in favor of Cuban investment. There is tremendous development potential, in both industry (read cheap labor) and tourism.

[SeanGAR]

The old guard will try to keep power, but I think things withh definately be different with the old man gone. It will be harder to maintain power and once the commies go, it will be a mess for some time as there will have to be come agreements as to who owns what brands, fields and facilities, etc. American demand for Cubans short term will result in price increases, but how much (if any) is anybody's guess.

[Ken Gargett]

every chance of absolute chaos and especially crime. the cubans are scared stiff of the crime that might follow and it has some of them thinking better the devil you know, and sticking with the current style of dictatorship, even though they know the harm it does. one mate was telling me for the first time in his life, cocaine is being found in cuba - previously just a little grass.

politicians will do what gets votes, not what is right (did anyone else know that cuba's 6th largest trading partner was the usa! - sort of makes the embargo a ridiculous joke. that came from the mouth of the minister for international trade).

something has to be done but i fear that once fidel goes, the place will become another cancun, bali, koh samui etc but with serious crime. hopefully in time, it will sort that out but i don't think it will be a happy place for a few years post castro (except for the month long party they'll throw when he does fall off the perch).

[genevapics]

» The Cuban

» people will not suffer endless oppression and poverty when the face of the

» revolution is gone.

You might be right, but let us not quickly forget the former USSR, which lasted from 1922 - 1991 and had many Soviet Premiers. There is nothing in Cuba to suggest that the death of Castro will bring an end to communism.

[Black Plague]

» every chance of absolute chaos and especially crime. the cubans are scared

» stiff of the crime that might follow and it has some of them thinking

» better the devil you know, and sticking with the current style of

» dictatorship, even though they know the harm it does. one mate was telling

» me for the first time in his life, cocaine is being found in cuba -

» previously just a little grass.

» politicians will do what gets votes, not what is right (did anyone else

» know that cuba's 6th largest trading partner was the usa! - sort of makes

» the embargo a ridiculous joke. that came from the mouth of the minister

» for international trade).

» something has to be done but i fear that once fidel goes, the place will

» become another cancun, bali, koh samui etc but with serious crime.

» hopefully in time, it will sort that out but i don't think it will be a

» happy place for a few years post castro (except for the month long party

» they'll throw when he does fall off the perch).

Pre-communist Cuba was known by many as the "Whorehouse of the Carribbean," nothing but seedy bars, tourist traps, brothels, gambling houses, and the ever-present Mafia. The Revolution was initially so popular because of both the hatred of Batista and because the communists cleaned Havana up. And I think a lot of people are right in being afraid it might all go back to the way it was, all crime and vice, once communism fails on the island.

[El Presidente]

» What are your visions of Hava after Castro passes? Nothing for up to 5 years. Everythingis so tightly controlled by the overt and covert police that Cuban's would have trouble organising a raffle for a meat tray. It will take the support of the military or police (or both) for a significant change to come about.»

» What will happen to cigars? Habanos s.a will control everything from plantation to distribution. »

» Will the Padrons reclaim their land? No. Nor will the disenfranchised Cubans living abroad.»

» Will Davidoff return? No. Habanos s.a will see that there is nothing to return to. JV's may be a possibility.»

» Or will everything just tumble into chaos? Chaos is what they fear most. This fear is the best thing they have going for them....that and the fact Raul Castro is 74 or 75 years of age.

Just supposition folks.

[Fatshotbud]

» » What are your visions of Hava after Castro passes? Nothing for up to 5

» years. Everythingis so tightly controlled by the overt and covert police

» that Cuban's would have trouble organising a raffle for a meat tray. It

» will take the support of the military or police (or both) for a

» significant change to come about.»

»

» » What will happen to cigars? Habanos s.a will control everything from

» plantation to distribution. »

»

» » Will the Padrons reclaim their land? No. Nor will the disenfranchised

» Cubans living abroad.»

»

» » Will Davidoff return? No. Habanos s.a will see that there is nothing

» to return to. JV's may be a possibility.»

»

» » Or will everything just tumble into chaos? Chaos is what they fear

» most. This fear is the best thing they have going for them....that and the

» fact Raul Castro is 74 or 75 years of age.

»

» Just supposition folks.

I am in a PANIC mood ---- Must buy more cigars, just in case..........

[Taino]

I just bought a crystal ball on ebay, wait a few days and I'll let you know:-P