How Cuba treats their champion athletes

[Habana Mike]

Discussing with my Cuban friends how US athletes are rewarded for winning major events like the World Series, they were surprised and amazed with what the players make.

Apparently in Cuba you're lucky to get a chicken, some oil and soap! Some get a token bonus or stipend but nowhere near what most other countries bestow on their winners......

https://es-us.deportes.yahoo.com/premios-que-indignan-y-evidencian-la-escasez-en-cuba-221849045.html

[cgoodrich]

27 minutes ago, Habana Mike said:

Discussing with my Cuban friends how US athletes are rewarded for winning major events like the World Series, they were surprised and amazed with what the players make.

Apparently in Cuba you're lucky to get a chicken, some oil and soap! Some get a token bonus or stipend but nowhere near what most other countries bestow on their winners......

https://www.ameriprise.com/products/insurance-annuities/annuities/annuity-performance-reports

@Habana Mike, you sure you have the correct link??? 🥸

[El Presidente]

Mike are you spamming 

[Habana Mike]

Oh for crissakes! Edited.....

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[Edicion]

According to Yoel Romero (highly accomplished wrestler and fighter) the Cuban sports system is a pyramid where kids start at 7-8 years old in dedicated sport schools, where there's different levels, first, second, third etc, and if they reach Olympic levels, that is the highest.The system produces great talent and champions and medalists in a multitude of sports, many of which are combat sports.

The higher level that athletes reach, the better accommodation, food and more. Within those levels, the ranking of the individuals also matter, so the #1 ranked has more privileges (let's say a wrestler) eats better than the #2, which eats better than the #3 ranked and so it goes on. It creates a situation where they're all competing with each other to have the best food, the best seats etc.The system pushes the athletes and creates a very competitive environment.

Yoel was in the National team for 15 years, living at a dedicated Olympic center. He lived together with 10 other athletes and they were at the same time each other's main competitors. He put it as "imagine living with 10 other guys for 15 years guys that wanted to kill you" (figuratively speaking or not who knows). 

Still, it allowed him to have better food than the common man. 

[porkchop]

Cuban Olympic Performance

Games	Athletes	Gold	Silver	Bronze	Total	Rank
1900 Paris	1	1	1	0	2	12
1904 St. Louis	4	4	2	3	9	3
1908 London	Did not participate
1912 Stockholm
1920 Antwerp
1924 Paris	9	0	0	0	0	–
1928 Amsterdam	1	0	0	0	0	–
1932 Los Angeles	Did not participate
1936 Berlin
1948 London	53	0	1	0	1	28
1952 Helsinki	29	0	0	0	0	–
1956 Melbourne	16	0	0	0	0	–
1960 Rome	12	0	0	0	0	–
1964 Tokyo	27	0	1	0	1	30
1968 Mexico City	115	0	4	0	4	31
1972 Munich	137	3	1	4	8	14
1976 Montreal	156	6	4	3	13	8
1980 Moscow	207	8	7	5	20	4
1984 Los Angeles	Did not participate
1988 Seoul
1992 Barcelona	176	14	6	11	31	5
1996 Atlanta	164	9	8	8	25	8
2000 Sydney	229	11	11	7	29	9
2004 Athens	151	9	7	11	27	11
2008 Beijing	149	3	10	17	30	19
2012 London	111	5	3	7	15	16
2016 Rio de Janeiro	124	5	2	4	11	18
2020 Tokyo	70	7	3	5	15	14

[Nino]

Yep, Cuba treats them so well that half of the national team escapes ...

PS : Reminds me of that old joke : What do you call a Cuban philarmonic orchestra after a world tour ? A quartet ....

Record Number of Players Defect From Cuba’s National Baseball Team

October 09, 2021 10:12 PM

• Agence France-Presse

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Baseball players play with friends at a field in Havana, Oct. 7, 2021. This year a record number of Cuban baseball players have defected abroad.

 

 

 

HAVANA — 

One player took off from the airport, while another jumped out of the window of his hotel room. In all, of the 24 members of Cuba's national baseball team who arrived in Mexico for the under-23 World Cup, only about half came home.

This year, a record number of players have defected from the communist-run island nation, which is enduring its worst economic crisis in 30 years.

The mass defection is "unprecedented in the history of baseball," Francys Romero, a sports journalist who has written a book on the phenomenon, told AFP.

The player who jumped from his hotel room window? He told Romero that he shimmied down a palm tree to get to a waiting getaway car.

Cuban baseball players leaving their homeland is not new. When professional sports were upended in the wake of the revolution led by Fidel Castro, many sought better opportunities abroad.

After a smattering of defections during the Cold War, the exodus picked up pace after the fall of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s.

Since Rene Arocha left the national team at the airport in Miami in 1991 for a career in the United States, about two or three players a year have deserted their country. Nine jumped ship in 1996. Those players are consistently regarded as traitors.

Some have left legally, an option that became possible with immigration reform in 2013, but which was starkly curtailed when flights were reduced because of the coronavirus pandemic.

A who's who of players who became Major League Baseball stars have made the leap, including Orlando and Livan Hernandez, Jose Abreu, Aroldis Chapman, Yasiel Puig and current Tampa Bay Rays standout Randy Arozarena.

Younger, not always stars

Not only has the number of players seeking careers abroad exploded, but their profiles are different: they are younger and not always destined for major league stardom, according to Romero.

So why are they risking it?

"To change their lives. Sports comes after that," he said.

Cuban former baseball player Lazaro de la Torre, right, gives advice to a player after a game in Havana, Oct. 7, 2021. This year a record number of Cuban baseball players have defected abroad, while the island suffers its worst economic crisis in 30 years.

Those who have left have faced criticism on social media, but many Cubans have simply wished them well; they are all too aware of how difficult life is in Cuba at the moment, with major shortages of food and medicine.

Earlier this year, when Cuba's national team came to the United States to play Olympic qualifying games, top talent Cesar Prieto, two other players and the team psychologist defected.

Cuba, a three-time Olympic champion and 25-time Baseball World Cup winner, failed for the first time to qualify for the Summer Games in Tokyo.

For Luis Daniel del Risco, currently the highest-ranking official in the Cuban baseball federation, there is "a war" under way to "destroy Cuban baseball."

He slammed what he called "a harassment campaign" by foreign recruiters, who attend most games that Cuba plays abroad.

'Very complicated decision'

"I've often heard it said that the state of baseball in Cuba reflects the state of the country," said Cuban novelist Leonardo Padura, a huge baseball fan who has dedicated a book to interviews with players.

"I think that what happened is a representation of what's happening in the country, this mass exodus" that has also been seen in an uptick in the number of Cubans trying to reach the United States on rickety boats to Florida.

"It's really a very complicated decision to make, as they are giving up a lot," he added.

They leave "without their passports, which are held by the delegation," Romero said. And all are barred from coming home to Cuba for eight years.

Del Risco says the players "did not fulfill their commitments to their teammates and to the country," but admits it's a "personal decision for each of them."

Major League Baseball and the Cuban baseball federation had reached a deal in late 2018 that would have allowed Cubans to play in the United States without having to first defect, but former President Donald Trump scrapped it in 2019.