Plug Prone ......which cigars do you find suffer most from this adversity.

[El Presidente]

Now, if you have had one or two from a box, it is not what I would call "Plug Prone"

Yet particularly for the experienced members who ave purchased over a long period of time....what cigar (Marque/Vitola/and if you like year), do you find to be consistently "Plug Prone".

It may help our newer members when buying blind from here or elsewhere.

* Yes...I will post a similar topic tomorrow for "Wind Tunnel Prone". No need to address it here.

Cheers in advance

[shlomo]

Monte 5

BPC

Cohiba Secretos

All years. Threeof my favorites, but I can't count how many I have tossed based on being plugged. Easily 20+ of each. More for the BPC.

[MIKA27]

The ones Steve (OzCuban) smokes!

Seriously, he tends to get alot of plugged cigars.

I love Cohiba Secretos and have never had a plugged one yet, but in saying that, Cohiba Genios for me had a hight plug rate as does the Partagas D5 LE's.

[PigFish]

…. the ones with too much water in them!

The only really plug prone cigars that I can recall would be Upmann Lonsdales from '01. They were just fantastic cigars and worth the risk and effort. They were tightly rolled...

I have smoked many cigars from the 'dreaded years.' Most of them were just fantastic cigars. It certainly could have been due to the fact that even back then I was not terribly infatuated by the pull of mainstream cigar fanciers. If I was, I certainly would not have been smoking '00 Seleccion Privadas and Upmann Lonsdales!

Cheers! -Piggy

[El Presidente]

Piggy, from the dreaded years i have had plenty of great cigars...plenty of dogs as well!

It was explained to me by Abel Gonzalez Ortego (cuban atache to PCC at the time...went on to head ITC and then to Canada) that the biggest problem in that period was fast tracking in at the rollers pre prep. They experimented and pre moistened all tobacco (wrapper/binder....AND filler). The rollers rolled as normal.....absolute clusterf***. In the skinnies and DC's particularly, they rolled baseball bats.

[Maplepie]

Cuaba Divinos.

Sent by the Enigma on BlackBerry.

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M 5 and M 4

[PigFish]

Piggy, from the dreaded years i have had plenty of great cigars...plenty of dogs as well!

It was explained to me by Abel Gonzalez Ortego (cuban atache to PCC at the time...went on to head ITC and then to Canada) that the biggest problem in that period was fast tracking in at the rollers pre prep. They experimented and pre moistened all tobacco (wrapper/binder....AND filler). The rollers rolled as normal.....absolute clusterf***. In the skinnies and DC's particularly, they rolled baseball bats.

I personally prefer the tighter to looser cigars. I seem to recall cigars from the mid to late 90's were generally tighter than other periods (that I can recall) and the stiffer draws were (perhaps wrongly) attributed by me at the time as potential reasons for my CC preference. Once I started smoking CC's, the stiffer draw just became part of the appeal. Like a lot of people that graduated (I am speculating now), I was a little put off at the very first but soon modified my outlook to see the side of a nicely packed cigar not as a mistake but a means to give me my money's worth. I mean if you fill the beef with crackers you get a rather sloppy meat loaf! Some amount of filler makes the dish, but too much ruins it altogether. I see cigar girth and filler largely the same. There is a proper blend and fill. For me, the fill makes a goodly part of the experience and makes the cigar operate properly and taste as it should.

Having read a considerable amount of data produced by the tobacco giants (cigarette companies) and reading the amount of detail involved in achieving the perfect "packing" (not packaging) for those products, I am convinced that the proper fill is absolutely necessary to achieve the most out of a cigar as well as a cigarette. I do think that the mechanical, the fluid dynamic aspect of the length, girth and packing is essential to a great cigar. It is every bit as important as the quality of tobacco. Great tobacco in a poorly manufactured package yields a less than best smoking experience.

Cheers mate! -the Pig

[subport]

One of my favourite cigar back in days suffered a lot more than lately.

H.Upmann magnum 46. 5-10 sticks/box consistently. thank god not any more.

[ErikB]

From my experience definitely Upmann and Robaina

[TheFullMontecristo]

HDM Des Dieux from several years back with at least 1/2 the box had tightly packed or plugged sticks. Would have Made for good tent pegs though.

[tmc123]

I had one box of Juan Lopez Petit Coronas which gave me greif but plenty from other boxes which were fine

[Skyfall]

Cohiba Secretos stands out as the main one for me.