Shade Grown

[kuma]

I am curious to know if any Cuban cigars are shade grown. And if so which brands and also

does Habanos ever advertise the fact if indeed there are some brands that are shaded.

I noticed that the Dom. and Nic. smokes that are shade grown are highly advertised

with much fanfare and great hype. Any info on this subject would be greatly appreciated.

[Colt45]

Unless things have changed, wrapper tobacco is shade grown, filler tobaccos sun grown.

It's my understanding that this is the case across all marques.

[Smallclub]

Unless things have changed, wrapper tobacco is shade grown, filler tobaccos sun grown.

It's my understanding that this is the case across all marques.

This.

btw, tobacco plants are shade grown (or sun grown), not cigars…

[kuma]

Thanks but I don't get it. Why advertise shade grown when everyone and their brother knows

tobacco in general is shade grown. Do they mean filler is shade grown. Or some filler is shade (50%)

the rest sun grown. Makes no sense. So all wrappers Cuban, Nic. Dom. Mex. are shade grown. I know that

Conn. broad leaf for wrappers are advertised as either shade or non-sade used in

great many smokes world over. Can't wait when embrago is lifted so the coming

together of this wrapper (Conn.) and Cuban filler once again graces the cigar world once more.

[Colt45]

Thanks but I don't get it.

I'm speaking only of Cuban cigars.

[Smallclub]

Can't wait when embrago is lifted so the coming

together of this wrapper (Conn.) and Cuban filler once again graces the cigar world once more.

Blehhhh what an idea! AFAIK the Connecticut is used mainly for its smooth appearance, its elasticity, its nice shades, not for its taste.

I hate Connecticut wrapper, it brings "green", vegetal taste, bordering bitterness…

[dvickery]

Thanks but I don't get it. Why advertise shade grown when everyone and their brother knows

tobacco in general is shade grown. Do they mean filler is shade grown. Or some filler is shade (50%)

the rest sun grown. Makes no sense. So all wrappers Cuban, Nic. Dom. Mex. are shade grown. I know that

Conn. broad leaf for wrappers are advertised as either shade or non-sade used in

great many smokes world over. Can't wait when embrago is lifted so the coming

together of this wrapper (Conn.) and Cuban filler once again graces the cigar world once more.

as has already been said ... for cuban cigars ... shade grown for the wrappers(all of them) ... sun grown for the filler leaves and binders .

what is it you "dont get" .

derrek

[Rye]

The non-Cuban markets need gimmicks to sell in that volatile market.

It's like selling a cup of tea as "real brewed steeped" tea, even though nothing has changed. It's all marketing 101.

[PaulP]

Blehhhh what an idea! AFAIK the Connecticut is used mainly for its smooth appearance, its elasticity, its nice shades, not for its taste.

I hate Connecticut wrapper, it brings "green", vegetal taste, bordering bitterness…

Even Connecticut Broadleaf?

[SaintLuis]

CT doesn't grow a ton of tobacco any more. They're a small fraction of what they made in their heyday. Most shade grown tobacco is Connecticut seed, grown in central America or DR.

Most non Cubans are targeting the US market, which prefers a larger RG, and much more pronounced flavors. So the blenders pair sun grown wrappers with their fillers to market the. Cigars. Cubans are generally much milder. I gave a BBF to a regular smoker who only smokes NCs, and he kept wowing about how smooth and mild it was. It's one of the stronger CCs in my humidor.

[Ginseng]

Even Connecticut Broadleaf?

I think I know what you're getting at. Broadleaf is a very different thing and I like its robust sweetness, especially maduro, on some cigars. He must be thinking of shade grown Connecticut wrapper and generalizing to "Connecticut" as a type. This site, Wholeaf has a nice little guide to some Connecticut tobacco varieties.

Wilkey

[DWC]

Connecticut Shade and Connecticut Broadleaf are two very different strains of tobacco. Shade is grown under cover of course and is the light mild wrapper you often see. Broadleaf is grown in the sun and used mostly for maduro. It's a thicker more robust leave and can handle the extra fermentation temps required for maduro.

[sw15825]

The non-Cuban markets need gimmicks to sell in that volatile market.

It's like selling a cup of tea as "real brewed steeped" tea, even though nothing has changed. It's all marketing 101.

This! Not meaning to put down anyone who likes and smokes NC Cigars, but the nc market says there cigsrs are better in alot of ways than Cuban cigars but then why do they always throw in anything cuban? Cuban seed, ex cuban rollers, cubanesque in flavor, ect.

[perkinke]

This! Not meaning to put down anyone who likes and smokes NC Cigars, but the nc market says there cigsrs are better in alot of ways than Cuban cigars but then why do they always throw in anything cuban? Cuban seed, ex cuban rollers, cubanesque in flavor, ect.

As Rye said, marketing. In the US, which I have read is the primary NC market, the pre-internet scarcity of Cubans made it hard to make a comparison; I don't pay attention to the "cubanesque" descriptions. I enjoy a lot of NC brands, to me they're not better or worse than Cubans, just different. But, my tastes in just about anything are pretty eclectic.

[Andy04]

For the NC market, do most of the manufacturers that use sun grown leaf processes this into maduro or oscuro wrappers?

It would be interesting to see the burn rate of a lightly fermented sun grown wrapper.