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The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners

The USA has a prison population of about 751 per 100,000 citizens, that is almost 6 times the median rate for the rest of the world.

The median rate for the rest of the world is 125.

The UK, for example, is 151, Germany 88, Japan 63.

None of this is really relevant in this topic but, nevertheless quite interesting.

From the New York Times :

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/americas/23iht-23prison.12253738.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

Nino

PS : I like shooting, have been a member of a shooting club in Germany and occasionally still shoot flowers for my wife in the village’s fair with air rifles ...

We also have the best law enforcement and acutally catch the majority of the perps, hence the inflated numbers..

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I am practicing the restraint of a Saint by not giving my full 2 cents on this, I imagine most know where I stand, I have some very strong opinions on this matter that are rooted in logic and statisti

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Dear Nino,

I can indeed picture you shooting flowers for your wife at a fair stand!!! So sweet!

Best,

Michel

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We also have the best law enforcement and acutally catch the majority of the perps, hence the inflated numbers..

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Congratulations :perfect10:

Dear Nino,

I can indeed picture you shooting flowers for your wife at a fair stand!!! So sweet!

Best,

Michel

Thanks Michel,

find it much easier to handle than the M-16/AR-15 by now and much more relaxing :flower::flower::flower:

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Indeed. But all internet forums are international. I can't think of any forum where I'm a member that doesn't have a large international representation. I think the prickly reactions on this thread have more to do with the personal biases of the people who've responded in such a manner than it does the fact that it's an international group. Some of the most knowledgeable collectors I know are in Australia and Canada (especially when it comes to Lee-Enfields), Germany (especially when it comes to Mausers), Finland (especially when it comes to Mosin Nagants), Israel (when it comes to Galils and Uzis), etc. Gun collecting is not an exclusively American tradition.

I do realize this isn't specifically a gun collectors forum and the primary focus is Cuban cigars, but the description of this forum in particular says nothing about not discussing firearms-related topics:

It seems clear that some of the more opinionated members don't want to gather with other members when it comes to this particular topic. My advice to them? Don't read the damned thread. There. Problem solved. But, of course, nothing's ever that easy, especially when others feel the need to bloviate on and on about their own personal biases. It seems clear there needs to be an addendum to the forum description above. I think something like "Don't talk about guns because at the moment Ken's panties aren't in a bunch and we'd prefer to keep them that way" would be immensely helpful.

Cheers,

~ Greg ~

Please stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

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Please stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

I'm not the least bit embarrassed. I've got nothing about which to be embarrassed in the first place.

But thanks for chiming in to add your $.02.

Cheers,

~ Greg ~

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I'm not the least bit embarrassed. I've got nothing about which to be embarrassed in the first place.

But thanks for chiming in to add your $.02.

Cheers,

~ Greg ~

It would be embarrassing if you didn't enjoy a cigar after all that "Machine Gun Therapy"! :rotfl:

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now that it was decided to make this fun and not just a discussion, i simply have to ask - "guns", "greg", "north dakota". any chance this wasn't you? of course, it may have been the only way top get it out of your mouth.

Published July 13, 2010, 05:26 PM

GF Man Shoots Self In Foot

A Grand Forks man was taken to the hospital Tuesday after shooting himself in the foot. Police say they got a call a little after 4:00pm to 1232 Oak Street in Grand Forks for an accidental discharge of a gun. When they got there, they found that 22-year-old Gregory Plautz had accidentally shot himself in the foot.

Sgt. Jason Dvorak with the Grand Forks Police Department says that Plautz was taking the small caliber gun out of its holster when he dropped it. The gun was loaded- and it hit the floor and fired, sending a bullet into Plautz' foot.

Altru emergency crews took Plautz to the hospital for his injuries. Dvorak says Plautz's injuries were not life-threatening and that he will not be charged with a crime as it appears the shooting was accidental.

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now that it was decided to make this fun and not just a discussion, i simply have to ask - "guns", "greg", "north dakota". any chance this wasn't you? of course, it may have been the only way top get it out of your mouth.

Published July 13, 2010, 05:26 PM

GF Man Shoots Self In Foot

A Grand Forks man was taken to the hospital Tuesday after shooting himself in the foot. Police say they got a call a little after 4:00pm to 1232 Oak Street in Grand Forks for an accidental discharge of a gun. When they got there, they found that 22-year-old Gregory Plautz had accidentally shot himself in the foot.

Sgt. Jason Dvorak with the Grand Forks Police Department says that Plautz was taking the small caliber gun out of its holster when he dropped it. The gun was loaded- and it hit the floor and fired, sending a bullet into Plautz' foot.

Altru emergency crews took Plautz to the hospital for his injuries. Dvorak says Plautz's injuries were not life-threatening and that he will not be charged with a crime as it appears the shooting was accidental.

  • Man Taken To Hospital After Shooting Self In Foot <a title="Man Taken To Hospital After Shooting Self In Foot">Man Taken To Hospital After Shooting Self In Foot

!LOL! Nice find! I have been to Grand Forks many times and surely there can't be more than one Greg there. lookaround.gif

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And so the Machine Gun thread closes :rolleyes:

As always in these matters it ends in personal insinuations/attacks which is not FOH.

I let this one go 24 hrs more than I wanted to in order to showcase to new members why topcs like this are frowned upon. Guns/Religion/US Politics generally get us into a host of issues with US Politics being the worst and hence banned.

Eventually the man is played and not the ball. Some people for all their normal decency and intelligence see topics such as this as a right to drop their cannons and "Fire". I don't care if the issues are discussed but it takes self control.

As for banning such topics I am loathe. The reason being is a great long term member who asked me to ban discussion of Alcohol and to tone down references to it (videos etal). He had a heartfelt reason and plenty of stats on the poision that is alcohol. I empathised but declined. He has left the forum.

Alcohol is legal. Guns are legal most parts (even in Oz with a License), Cigars are still legal. This is a cigar board and 90% of discussion should follow that line. The balance is a mix of members interests etal. Personal attacks are not in members interests. I will delete those attacks and suspend/ban members who participate. It will piss me off no end to be placed in a position to have to do it.

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