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Notice that i said "to follow" red wine. Unlike the heathens reviewing cigars on this site ;)

In other words, you just sat down to a nice sunday lunch, a roast or anything straightforward (not radical - ie not spicy hot or extreme flavours) slowly indulged in a bottle or two of semi-decent red wine with your lunch partners, pull out the port and the cigars...

what do you reach for?

i tend to crave woody type cigars with plenty of tannins that match that leftover red wine flavour... eg Punch (esp. RS11), Montecristo (no.2 works well), SLR Serie A, Trinidad (just had a Coloniales yesterday that needs another 10 years it had that much tannin) etc

but not (for mine) earthy whisky type cigars Ramon Allones, Bolivar, et al.

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I am a life member of the "Red Wine and Cigars Heathens Club" :D

i really don't drink/enjoy heavy tannic reds. it will either be svelt or fruit driven (berries/choc/vanilla) bigger reds minus the tannin. In that case almost everything works from Partagas, Bolivar, Ramon Allones, Diplomatico, Montecristo.

Post dinner with friends I will almost always retire with a Zaccapa. The only cigars I rule out in the main are Hoyo's and San Cristobal. However if I am having coffee then those along with Montecristo are the cigars I tend to go for.

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I am a life member of the "Red Wine and Cigars Heathens Club" :D

I have also had good luck pairing red wine and cigars (we played poker three times a week at my beloved B&M in Houston, and more often then not, ordered red wine from the wine room next door). For an after red meat/red wine dinner, love to go with a partagas or bolivar.

My palate is no where as advanced as many on this forum, but I have found one truism, and i tell my newbie cigar clients this every day: "cigars and wine share this commonality - you dont have to know everything about either, only have to know what you enjoy"

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interesting matchups particularly the bolivar - i never feel like bolivars after wine, but get out a whisky or a rum and i'll get one out like a flash.

but i'm gathering that most on the forum smoke with diet coke :covermouth::lookaround:

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but i'm gathering that most on the forum smoke with diet coke :covermouth::lookaround:

I have had my share of diet cokes paired with cigars, but more often than not, I prefer plain bottled water. It certainly doesnt compliment the cigar, but it doesnt confuse my palate either.

Strangely enough, I also like agua de jamaica (mexican version of sweetened hibiscus water) every now and again with a cigar.

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As a wine merchant who loves cigars I have tried a few combos and agree with the idea that you need a wine with a good slug of fruit about it. I think this is because cigars (in general) have a lot of the earthy leathery type flavours and you need something different to compliment. Cigars and wine should both be about fun so lets face it the combos that work are becuase you are having a laugh at the time!

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Notice that i said "to follow" red wine. Unlike the heathens reviewing cigars on this site ;)

two things in one day that we agree on????

althought i suspect that i am one of the allged 'heathens'. i assure you that it is only because if i don't serve chief heathen reds, he gets very grumpy and kicks my plants.

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two things in one day that we agree on????

althought i suspect that i am one of the allged 'heathens'. i assure you that it is only because if i don't serve chief heathen reds, he gets very grumpy and kicks my plants.

This is true.

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[uh... in these contexts, it's "complement", not "compliment". I don't expect to get any compliments for this.]

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I agree with the Prez as I'm a guy who likes fruit/vanilla/tobacco/subtle earth laden wines, a good Pinot or Petite Syrah, or like the other night I had a nice easy drinking Zin I paired with a DIp 4 from 07 and they worked perfectly together but Partagas or Upmanns are my two choices, both with nice spice and aged tobacco flavors with some cedary notes I find complement very well.

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