dmuchow Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 Tonight i'm going to try a red wine from Argentina, 2008 Ramirez de Velazco Malbec Reserva. I'm a complete newbie to the wine scene, but this one seems to have pretty high ratings. How are the wines from Argentina? Is a Malbec wine going to be too much for my palate? I guess what i'd like to know is where to start with wines. I usually drink them by themselves or sometimes with chicken marsala.
Colt45 Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 Tonight i'm going to try a red wine from Argentina, 2008 Ramirez de Velazco Malbec Reserva. I'm a complete newbie to the wine scene, but this one seems to have pretty high ratings. How are the wines from Argentina? Is a Malbec wine going to be too much for my palate? I guess what i'd like to know is where to start with wines. I usually drink them by themselves or sometimes with chicken marsala. I don't know anything about this particular bottle, but I love Argentine malbec. To my palate, I find it to be quite black pepper spicy. I tend to stay away from the lower priced (around $10 or so) bottles, as in my opinion they are usually on the rough side. Wine, like cigars is a journey - enjoy the trip!
bassman Posted January 22, 2009 Posted January 22, 2009 Don't know that particular wine, but I enjoy those Malbecs. Good hearty wines. I agree, stay away from the really cheap ones. 2005, 06 & 07 are all excellent vintages- 2006 the best. Try Luigi Bosca Malbec Reserva- under $20 & 2005 currently available. Luka, Susanna Balbo & Piedra Negra are also excellent. All these wines are drinkable now with a little airation & will age well for 3-5 years.
Rogers72 Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 i recently picked up a bottle of Zolo Cab from Argentina b/c it was only around $10-$11 USD. I really enjoyed it. Very spicy. I think it was from 2005.
Taino Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 I'm not an expert but being in the region and indirectly related with the wine industry I know something about argentinian wine. My personal suggestions would be: Kaiken, Malbec reserva Kaiken Malbec ultra Bodega del 900 Lurton, Piedra Negra Lurton, Chacayes Catena Zapata Malbec There are very many good argentinian malbecs and "ensamblage" with malbec in them, but I tend to drink these
rckymtn22 Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 I have had both of the Kaiken Malbec and enjoyed them. Excellent value and would recommend them.
anacostiakat Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 I don't know anything about this particular bottle, but I love Argentine malbec. To my palate, I find it to be quite black pepper spicy.I tend to stay away from the lower priced (around $10 or so) bottles, as in my opinion they are usually on the rough side. Wine, like cigars is a journey - enjoy the trip! What Colt said. . .
Ken Gargett Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 sadly we see very little here - a few oddities - but the argentinians seem to do malbec as well, if not better, than anybody (there are a few kiwis that also take it seriously and do it well). let us know what you thought.
DocRKS Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 You know what the original French moniker for this grape varietal means? Mal bec = Bad (stinky) nose !!! Yes, the Argentinians are taking this grape and really going to market with it ---- personally, not a wine that I seek out and there is an enourmous amount of it around here.. Good QPR if you can get past the 'bad nose'...
terrantheman Posted January 23, 2009 Posted January 23, 2009 I'm pretty intimidated by wine but the malbecs have come highly recommended to me by an old friend. He is married to a master sommellier and they have been enjoying quite a few of these Argentinian creations and some wines from Uraguay and also Greece. I'm supposed to go get some lessons from them soon I'll let you guys know what I'm able to learn.
dmuchow Posted January 24, 2009 Author Posted January 24, 2009 I enjoyed the wine thoroughly, the spice/pepper was immediately evident but not overwhelming. A great wine.
Colt45 Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 I enjoyed the wine thoroughly, the spice/pepper was immediately evident but not overwhelming. A great wine. Glad to hear you enjoyed it. The malbec discussion forced me to grab a bottle while during my most recent trip to one of my locals. I picked up an '05 Bosca reserva - a Bassman recommendation (it better be good, bass ) I've had the Kaiken some time back, but I forget which bottling. I'll be keeping my eyes out for some of the other suggestions as well. Here's to wine - hiccup......
anacostiakat Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Glad to hear you enjoyed it. The malbec discussion forced me to grab a bottle while during my most recent trip to one of my locals.I picked up an '05 Bosca reserva - a Bassman recommendation (it better be good, bass ) I've had the Kaiken some time back, but I forget which bottling. I'll be keeping my eyes out for some of the other suggestions as well. Here's to wine - hiccup...... Having a glass my self. No Malbec though. A Sterling Cab.
Colt45 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I tried the Bosca over the weekend. It was good - a bit less spicy than I might expect. Very dense, and perhaps just a tad over extracted for my taste, but enjoyable nonetheless.
bassman Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 I tried the Bosca over the weekend. It was good - a bit less spicy than I might expect. Very dense, and perhaps just a tad over extracted for my taste, but enjoyable nonetheless. The denseness is one of the things I like about this wine. I prefer full bodied wines. And as for the mal bec, is smells good to me. Even better is the 2006 Archaval Ferreir (not sure if that's the correct spelling) but that's going to cost more.
Taino Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 If any of you can, put your hands over a bottle of Chacayes by Lurton... you could like it or not by you cannot argue is a great wine.
Colt45 Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 The denseness is one of the things I like about this wine. Even better is the 2006 Archaval Ferreir (not sure if that's the correct spelling) but that's going to cost more. I think the density took me a bit by surprise. I guess that I generally expect a "racier" style. I'll be keeping my eyes out for the others mentioned, and will try the Bosca again.
anacostiakat Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Doesnt look like my local carries the Bosca. Anyone tried the Calathus or Vina Alicia? They are discounted.
DocRKS Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Anyone tried...... Vina Alicia? They are discounted. You didn't say what Vintage - I have had a few bottles of the 2004 V. Alicia - Highly Recommend...goes beautifully with a nice grilled steak!!!! (and this is from someone who is not a big fan of this varietal - but this was some really good juice.
Colt45 Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 If any of you can, put your hands over a bottle of Chacayes by Lurton... you could like it or not by you cannot argue is a great wine. Thanks Taino, I'll keep my eyes peeled for it.
anacostiakat Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 You didn't say what Vintage - I have had a few bottles of the 2004 V. Alicia - Highly Recommend...goes beautifully with a nice grilled steak!!!! (and this is from someone who is not a big fan of this varietal - but this was some really good juice. Sorry. '03 for the Alicia... '05 for the Calathus..
BonVivant Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 The best Argentinian wines I had tried were in Argentina. The people of this country are very proud and I personally have a lot of respect for them. They drink only Argentinian wines, eat only Argentinian produce and drive only cars, made in Argentina. Also, Argentinians smoke only Cuban cigars, because the cigars are not produced in Argentina, yet...
jquest63 Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 I really enjoy Malbecs, if you like rich, but not dry reds try some others. If found a couple of very good Malbecs for under $20 at Costco.
Deeks Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 My father was born and raised in Argentina, so I've had my fair share of their Malbecs and blends. Personally, I'd have to say that I like their blends a little more, but they're all pretty good. Some decent names to look for are: Clos De Los Sietes Clos De Los Andes & Norton All are around the $20 mark As for tasty cheap bottles, Fuzion and Misterio (both malbecs) are only $7.45 and they're surprisingly good. I live in Toronto and the stores here can't keep them on the shelves. Happy drinking!
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