thschrminm Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 We have all seen the old ribbon on the wheel of cigars tied too tight... How many times have you received a cabinet and found 1 or 2 or 3 out of the 25 or 50 count vitolas damaged... Is it realistic to expect all of them to be in perfect condition? How many would it take for you to send the cabinet back? I am ok with 2-3 for a 25 count and 4-5 for a 50 count...
cf2112 Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 » We have all seen the old ribbon on the wheel of cigars tied too tight... » » How many times have you received a cabinet and found 1 or 2 or 3 out of » the 25 or 50 count vitolas damaged... » » Is it realistic to expect all of them to be in perfect condition? » » How many would it take for you to send the cabinet back? » » I am ok with 2-3 for a 25 count and 4-5 for a 50 count... That sound ok. I smoked an SS #2 tonite that was pretty dented but smoked fine, I need more of these:-D (hinit, hint)
joerose Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 I've never had a dented cab cigar that was unsmokeable. Maybe good luck?
Spud2 Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 » I've never had a dented cab cigar that was unsmokeable. Maybe good luck? Same here, never recieved damaged goods. :-)
Phailure Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 Never had one that was unsmokable either. I can understand why it'd be rather irritating if you got some dented sticks when you paid good money for it but... i figure they're going to end up being ashes anyway. I just smoke the dented ones first.
Echeck Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 I have never really had a stick damaged by a ribbon that wasint smokeable. They do come out a bit crooked sometimes though. There has got to be a way to better this though. I like the tight wheel of 50, but maybe less tight??
strayvector Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 I've only had one (but then I've only ever ordered 1 cabinet) that was dented with slight damage to the wrapper, but it was smokeable.
Elric Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 I've gotten a few dents but never anything unsmokeable.
cvm4 Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 Can't say I've really noticed a difference. But I will say man it is hard as hell to get all the cigars perfect to put back in the cab once you pull them out. I was putting some SS#2 in an old Mag46 box I had. I lined them up with the ribbon and then went to putting them in. Probably the most frustrating experience I've had in a long time!!!
CIGARHead Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 » Can't say I've really noticed a difference. » » But I will say man it is hard as hell to get all the cigars perfect to put » back in the cab once you pull them out. I was putting some SS#2 in an old » Mag46 box I had. I lined them up with the ribbon and then went to putting » them in. Probably the most frustrating experience I've had in a long » time!!! I'm with ya Cliff. I was recently boxing some Partagas Serie du Conn 1's and couldnt get the last mutha in. Pissed off, I said the hell with it and shmoked it.
dragon Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 » We have all seen the old ribbon on the wheel of cigars tied too tight... » » How many times have you received a cabinet and found 1 or 2 or 3 out of » the 25 or 50 count vitolas damaged... » » Is it realistic to expect all of them to be in perfect condition? » » How many would it take for you to send the cabinet back? » » I am ok with 2-3 for a 25 count and 4-5 for a 50 count... You should not settle for ANY damaged sticks. If you are paying a retail price for a box of 25 or 50 cigars, then you should get 25 or 50 perfect cigars and be 100% satisfied in my opinion. After all, would a vendor send you 50 perfect cigars and settle for payment for 45 cigars??
TR Posted October 15, 2005 Posted October 15, 2005 agreed. But if it is a touch damaged, I won't scream...
wasch_24 Posted October 15, 2005 Posted October 15, 2005 Small dents are acceptable IMO but if the wrapper if pierced or broken I might consider letting the vendor know about it.
Loki Posted October 15, 2005 Posted October 15, 2005 It's been my experience with cabs and dress boxes that at least one stick has slight cosmetic damage. I refer to this stick as the RUNT and it goes first. put it out of its misery.
mr.harten Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 » It's been my experience with cabs and dress boxes that at least one stick » has slight cosmetic damage. I refer to this stick as the RUNT and it goes » first. put it out of its misery. Exactly! That is how I always justify smoking the first one... "Well, it does have damaged wrapper and it will probably just get worse. I guess I ought to go ahead and smoke it right now..." :-D
El Presidente Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 It was a bigger problem between 1999-2003 (don't know why). 1 in 6-7 cabs today will have at least 1 dinted cigar due to the ribbon.
shrink Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 Cliff said: But I will say man it is hard as hell to get all the cigars perfect to put back in the cab once you pull them out. I was putting some SS#2 in an old Mag46 box I had. I lined them up with the ribbon and then went to putting them in. Probably the most frustrating experience I've had in a long time!!! I'm not surprised. They were resisting. You're lucky that those SS2's didn't go on strike, or self-immolate in protest. Imagine putting a Punch cigar into an Upmann cab! Next thing you'll be sticking 'em in a Fuente box. What blasphemy!
guilow Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 I agree that you shouldn't have to accept some amount of damaged sticks. You should get a replacement. However, to make it easy on the vendor you should just have them send the replacement with the next order.
The Privateer Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 I've had the same experience here, but the dents seem to be more of a superficial issue than anything.
raney Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 » It was a bigger problem between 1999-2003 (don't know why). » » 1 in 6-7 cabs today will have at least 1 dinted cigar due to the ribbon. Certainly nothing wrong with those odds. Personally, I have no problem with the occasional superficial damage - I find it usually doesn't affect the cigar experience too much, and I too like Loki's 'Runt" rationalization
Taino Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 I tend to think quality in cab cigars is more consistent (don't really have arguments for this besides my experience smoking them:-D ). In newer cabs I've seen much less cigars with dent... In fact I've seen so many few that I kind of missed them... they look cool, they've been in war and survived, they deserve to be smoked
rbrotmd Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 Pardon my ignorance, but what is a cabinet? (In Rhode Island, it's a milk shake!)
CIGARHead Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 » Pardon my ignorance, but what is a cabinet? » » (In Rhode Island, it's a milk shake!) A Cabinet is a cedar box with a sliding cedar top.(From all I've seen). The cigars, most a 50 count, but some 25 count (Cohiba Siglos, Robustos, JL's, Bolivar BBF Cab Selection etc..) are wrapped and tied up in a silk ribbon. This is what these guys are talking about. Sometimes the ribbon is tied too tight around the "wheel" of cigars making one or a few cigars dented in from the tightness of the ribbon.
rbrotmd Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 Thanks, CIGARHead. I actually purchased one and didn't even know it (HU Magnum 46)!
SeanGAR Posted February 20, 2006 Posted February 20, 2006 Had some dents, but nothing that looked like culebra. Doesn't seem to affect the smoke.
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