Tobacco tax increases and then?

[yossie]

There's movement that people make the price of a box of cigarette about 10 USD here.

I know some of places you guys live already have done this act.

How do you guys still continue to smoke?

Need your wisdom!

By the by..

I probably will purchase tons of cigars by the day. :-P

[El Presidente]

I think a pack of cigarettes here is now $12 AUD / $11.50 USD

People find the money. Remarkable.

[jb007]

» I think a pack of cigarettes here is now $12 AUD / $11.50 USD

»

» People find the money. Remarkable.

yeah that sounds right prez. most of my mates have taken to smoking rollies though yossie. a couple still smoke tailors though, going through maybe 2-3 packets a week. i don't understand it, so much money for a trash smoke... basically just fuelling your tabacco addiction, no enjoyment from them though!

[yossie]

» » I think a pack of cigarettes here is now $12 AUD / $11.50 USD

» »

» » People find the money. Remarkable.

»

» yeah that sounds right prez. most of my mates have taken to smoking

» rollies though yossie. a couple still smoke tailors though, going through

» maybe 2-3 packets a week. i don't understand it, so much money for a trash

» smoke... basically just fuelling your tabacco addiction, no enjoyment from

» them though!

Yeah, Cigarette can not be big joy but good for the current price.

Of course, As you said, I don't buy 12 AUD cigarettes:-|

Why don't them smoke cigars with the cost?

>Rob

I hope you will someday arrange A funeral sale for Japanese smokers:-D

[JMH]

» i don't understand it, so much money for a trash

» smoke... basically just fuelling your tabacco addiction, no enjoyment from

» them though!

I don't think anyone actually likes cigarettes when they start smoking, but then they become addicted to the physical action of smoking, and the nicotine. People can be really stupid about it too. I had a friend who had to quit for a few weeks after getting all four wisdom teeth removed. Completely kicked the habit but then decided to start again. She hated the taste of it, but kept going until she got used to it again. Absolutely crazy if you ask me.

[n2advnture]

» I don't think anyone actually likes cigarettes when they start smoking,

» but then they become addicted to the physical action of smoking, and the

» nicotine. People can be really stupid about it too. I had a friend who had

» to quit for a few weeks after getting all four wisdom teeth removed.

» Completely kicked the habit but then decided to start again. She hated the

» taste of it, but kept going until she got used to it again. Absolutely

» crazy if you ask me.

You hit it on the head. The typical cigarette smoker starts very young (teens) and it is EXTREMELY difficult to quit (I've tried at least a dozen times).

The hardest thing is that even after quiting for an extended period of time, you still get urges for a cigarette that you can't compare to anything else - it's consuming until you have one.

The biggest regret I have to date is starting smoking cigarettes.

BTW - $3.50 a pack here

~M

[patrick]

Some people here take trips down south or east and load up because packs are still about $4.

[winelover]

» BTW - $3.50 a pack here

»

» ~M

That's very cheap. Here in the UK, a 20 pack of smokeable cigarrettes rather than the total dog sh*t ones costs around £5.70 - so about $11.50.

Funnily enough, the minimum wage here generally tracks the price of a 20 pack. Does anyone find that's the same where they live?

Not many smoke cigarrettes here these days, just too expensive.

[habanohal]

I always buy cartons of Newports. With coupons they cost me $ 32. If my wifes uncle is comeing around town ( lives in New York) He will stop by the Indian Casino and pick up a few cartons for me for $19. The cost is all in the tax.

Yet if smokeing was outlawed or everyone quit, The US goverment would crumble and just tax something else

[armedak]

» There's movement that people make the price of a box of cigarette about 10

» USD here.

» I know some of places you guys live already have done this act.

»

» How do you guys still continue to smoke?

» Need your wisdom!

»

» By the by..

» I probably will purchase tons of cigars by the day. :-P

I don't smoke cigarettes but if you look at the breakdown in the pricing a huge part of the cost is the tobacco taxes. Now I don't advocate this, but my smoking friends tell me the key is buy tax free on Indian reservation etc...

[yossie]

» I don't smoke cigarettes but if you look at the breakdown in the pricing a

» huge part of the cost is the tobacco taxes. Now I don't advocate this, but

» my smoking friends tell me the key is buy tax free on Indian reservation

» etc...

There're no Indians here. :-(

[Trevor2118]

» » I don't smoke cigarettes but if you look at the breakdown in the pricing a huge part of the cost is the tobacco taxes. Now I don't advocate this, but my smoking friends tell me the key is buy tax free on Indian reservation etc...

» There're no Indians here. :-(

Yos, you are a scream...... ...... ...... ......

[El Presidente]

» There're no Indians here. :-(

:rotfl: :rotfl:

I never would have guessed Japan is short of Indian reservations.

[Chaki]

» » There're no Indians here. :-(

»

»

» :rotfl: :rotfl:

»

» I never would have guessed Japan is short of Indian reservations.

They do have "Ainu" up north in Hokkaido...almost the same thing :-D

[yossie]

» » » There're no Indians here. :-(

» »

» »

» » :rotfl: :rotfl:

» »

» » I never would have guessed Japan is short of Indian reservations.

»

» They do have "Ainu" up north in Hokkaido...almost the same thing :-D

Yeah, We have them. but they are not allowed not to pay tax.

By the way, Why do people laugh at what I said?

[ARRV]

» » » » There're no Indians here. :-(

» » »

» » »

» » » :rotfl: :rotfl:

» » »

» » » I never would have guessed Japan is short of Indian reservations.

» »

» » They do have "Ainu" up north in Hokkaido...almost the same thing :-D

» Yeah, We have them. but they are not allowed not to pay tax.

» By the way, Why do people laugh at what I said?

They are laughing "with" you Yossie, not "at" you.

Always hard to explain humour [indeed its essence is its inexplicability] esepcially when written in emails and boards. Your comment is funny for its truth, simplicity and wry nature

[yossie]

» » » » » There're no Indians here. :-(

» » » »

» » » »

» » » » :rotfl: :rotfl:

» » » »

» » » » I never would have guessed Japan is short of Indian reservations.

» » »

» » » They do have "Ainu" up north in Hokkaido...almost the same thing :-D

» » Yeah, We have them. but they are not allowed not to pay tax.

» » By the way, Why do people laugh at what I said?

»

» They are laughing "with" you Yossie, not "at" you.

»

» Always hard to explain humour [indeed its essence is its inexplicability]

» esepcially when written in emails and boards. Your comment is funny for its

» truth, simplicity and wry nature

I see. thanks

[Trevor2118]

» » » » » » There're no Indians here. :-(

Yos, that was what we Aussies (and others) call pure dry humor......

[yossie]

» » » » » » » There're no Indians here. :-(

»

»

» Yos, that was what we Aussies (and others) call pure dry

» humor......

I got it. The term "dry humor" is contained in my dictionary. I realize what you guys meant :-D

In fact, We don't have tax haven in the country as American does. So, I try to stop smoking cigarettes

[ATGroom]

» In fact, We don't have tax haven in the country as American does. So, I

» try to stop smoking cigarettes

»

I think if I were going to start smoking cigarettes anywhere it'd be Japan.

1) They're only $3 a pack, as compared to the $12 I'm used to in Australia

2) There are two machines selling them on every block

3) You can still smoke everywhere - resturants, bars, offices, whatever

4) There are no health warnings on the packs, or if there are, they're not in English. There are no massive colour pictures of gangrenous feet at any rate.

5) Peer group presure! In Australia, you don't really see that many smokers any more, and when you do, they're not often hip young people. In Japan you can see pretty young girls smoking in every Cafe and on every street.

[bobsled]

In

» Japan you can see pretty young girls smoking in every Cafe and on every

» street.

:-( Sad! I started at 18, and quit (the second time) at 39. Its been 4 years, and there are still times I feel the urge to have a cigarette.

Love cigars though, smoke 1-3 a week, and cigarettes take away from teh cigar experience. So a quitter I remain

Its all about peer pressure; if our local governments hadn't been pressured into banning smoking in public by the health do gooder bunch, we'd still be smokin' all over!

[gostgost]

New York just raised the price to over $9.00 a pack. My wife just snapped. I put a chain around my humidor.

[armedak]

» » I don't smoke cigarettes but if you look at the breakdown in the pricing

» a

» » huge part of the cost is the tobacco taxes. Now I don't advocate this,

» but

» » my smoking friends tell me the key is buy tax free on Indian

» reservation

» » etc...

» There're no Indians here. :-(

Yossie,

The key here is the etc... If you can find a way to buy tax and duty free tobacco is much more affordable. the use of some methods to do this are at your own risk. :-D :-D

[yossie]

» » » I don't smoke cigarettes but if you look at the breakdown in the

» pricing

» » a

» » » huge part of the cost is the tobacco taxes. Now I don't advocate

» this,

» » but

» » » my smoking friends tell me the key is buy tax free on Indian

» » reservation

» » » etc...

» » There're no Indians here. :-(

»

» Yossie,

»

» The key here is the etc... If you can find a way to buy tax and duty

» free tobacco is much more affordable. the use of some methods to do this

» are at your own risk. :-D :-D

Recently I don't pay any taxes on cigars :-D

[smokum]

» You hit it on the head. The typical cigarette smoker starts very young

» (teens) and it is EXTREMELY difficult to quit (I've tried at least a dozen

» times).

»

» The hardest thing is that even after quiting for an extended period of

» time, you still get urges for a cigarette that you can't compare to

» anything else - it's consuming until you have one.

»

» The biggest regret I have to date is starting smoking cigarettes.

This is dead on. I just need that nicotine hit. I hate it.