Trevor2118 Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Hi, I am new & this is my first posting....hope I have not overlooked a thread somewhere. I am intending to construct a small walk-in/ closset humidor....about 3m long x 1.2 m wide x 2.0m high. I am having trouble finding suitable automatic temperature and humidity control equipment. There is some great stuff in the US but voltage & transport costs make these prohibitive. I have looked at using a small wall mounted Fondis Wine Master (C18s - cost about $3K...I have a larger Fondis IN50 in my wine cellar & it works great) for temperature control (with a bit of twiging of the thermostat). I would then need a dehumidifier and a humidifier. These 3 units would do the job, but not very gracefully. My question is....does anyone know of a more suitable system or arrangement AVAILABLE IN AUSTRALIA. I could go nuts in the USA with the equipment they have there......but maybe I will just go nuts here trying to find a solution. Hoping someone has some ideas.
El Presidente Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Welcome! We are devoid in Australia of good value, good quality, small application humidity equipment. For small rooms you can get away with: 1 x airconditioner 1 x permanently plumbed steam humidifier with wired hygrometer. This system works well in a 65% RH 65%F balance. Shop around for a good Steam Humidifier. You do not need a big unit. Airconditioner $600 Humidifier + hygrometer $1800 Plumbing, fitting and electrical $600 Simons Boiler Co Electrode steam humidifiers for adding humidity back into air-conditioned spaces for comfort and electronics. t: 02 8338 8660 Total approx $3k. The unit you will end up with is perhaps overkill but capable of doing 10000 cigars. What many of our clients do in room conversions is use 3/4 for wine and the rest for cigars. We are working on a cigar cabinet wine fridge conversion. The designers have been running tests on a 40 - 60 cigar box unit on the Gold Coast and I have a meeting with John Whelan (who is conduction the testing) on Monday here at Czar House. Fingers crossed.
jay8354 Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 » We are working on a cigar cabinet wine fridge conversion. The designers » have been running tests on a 40 - 60 cigar box unit on the Gold Coast and » I have a meeting with John Whelan (who is conduction the testing) on » Monday here at Czar House. Fingers crossed. This has been a long time coming and I can't wait for these to be available. Please post pictures once they have the BIG TICK of Approval from you, El Prez. Once I buy that, will have to think of how to fill it all up. :-D
habanablue Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 Trevor, nice work on setting up a walk in Humi!!! with current laws it might be a great place to meet up for our next FOH party as it sounds big enouch for a party. Are you in Carlingford by any chance? regards, Sam
swl Posted June 20, 2006 Posted June 20, 2006 I would think that any place that sells equipment for wine cellars can be adapted for storing cigars.
Trevor2118 Posted June 21, 2006 Author Posted June 21, 2006 » Welcome! » » We are devoid in Australia of good value, good quality, small application » humidity equipment. » » For small rooms you can get away with: » » 1 x airconditioner » 1 x permanently plumbed steam humidifier with wired hygrometer. » » This system works well in a 65% RH 65%F balance. Many thanks. I have contacted the suggested firm for info. Apparently up in beautiful QLD you have low humidity. My area (Sydney suburbs, NSW) appears to be the reverse....high humidity, but a wired hydrometer appears what I need for humidity control, in addition to the air con. I will keep the thread informed with any solutions that I find. Cheers
Trevor2118 Posted June 21, 2006 Author Posted June 21, 2006 » Trevor, nice work on setting up a walk in Humi!!! with current laws it » might be a great place to meet up for our next FOH party as it sounds big » enouch for a party. » Are you in Carlingford by any chance? » Hi Sam, yes Carlingford area. Have we met?? With the trend of the non-smoking laws we all may have to box ourselfs into a sealed room to smoke. The size is more governed by an available return area in the room. A single wall across the 3m opening is all I need (apart for minor items like insulation, humidity & temperature control, spanish cedar lining etc etc & pots of money to fill it up). It is realy too big (who said that) but if I reduced it to half size I save nothing on the framing & the temp & hum control, and little on the insulation. There would be a substantial saving on the Spanish cedar but hell, why not. I would also end up with a half size useless return. The big joke on the anti-smoking lobby is that it is part of a gym that is being converted. Cheers
Trevor2118 Posted June 21, 2006 Author Posted June 21, 2006 » I would think that any place that sells equipment for wine cellars can be » adapted for storing cigars. Hi, thanks. You are quite right, particularly regarding temperature control, & I think I can sort this out easily. The wine boys however are a lot more flexiable with humidity....my insulated air con wine cellar maintains around 75% humidity....too high for cigars (65% - 70% as per Habanos). I lost quite a few cigars in a small chest humidor that develloped blue mold. You tend to get a lot more serious once you start throwing out good cigars. For info, my wine cellar temperature maintains 14deg C plus or minus 1deg C, within an outdoor range of 0deg C to 41deg C, and I have not yet finished the insulation. The installation is a retrofit and is slow going. Cheers
Trevor2118 Posted June 28, 2006 Author Posted June 28, 2006 » We are working on a cigar cabinet wine fridge conversion. The designers have been running tests on a 40 - 60 cigar box unit on the Gold Coast and I have a meeting with John Whelan (who is conduction the testing) on Monday here at Czar House. Fingers crossed. Hi El Pres..........Any update on the cigar / fridge conversion? Thanks.
El Presidente Posted June 28, 2006 Posted June 28, 2006 » » We are working on a cigar cabinet wine fridge conversion. The designers » have been running tests on a 40 - 60 cigar box unit on the Gold Coast and » I have a meeting with John Whelan (who is conduction the testing) on » Monday here at Czar House. Fingers crossed. » » Hi El Pres..........Any update on the cigar / fridge conversion? Thanks. Arrives here in store for final testing next week. I will post photo's.
Trevor2118 Posted October 29, 2006 Author Posted October 29, 2006 » » We are working on a cigar cabinet wine fridge conversion. The designers have been running tests on a 40 - 60 cigar box unit on the Gold Coast and I have a meeting with John Whelan (who is conduction the testing) on Monday here at Czar House. Fingers crossed. Arrives here in store for final testing next week. I will post photo's. Hi, just raising the question again....did it all go pear-shaped or is it back for further testing or was the whole project shelved?
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