Jimmy2 Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 La Aroma de Cuba was made famous in part by Winston Churchill who characterized the cigar as one of his favorites. When it was made in Cuba....
Jimmy2 Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 » La Aroma de Cuba was made famous in part by Winston Churchill who » characterized the cigar as one of his favorites. » » When it was made in Cuba.... In 1947 i think he visted Cuba at the R&J factory where they made him R&J Churchill and it been around ever since...
josie67 Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 » » La Aroma de Cuba was made famous in part by Winston Churchill who » » characterized the cigar as one of his favorites. » » » » When it was made in Cuba.... » » In 1947 i think he visted Cuba at the R&J factory where they made him R&J » Churchill and it been around ever since... Yup, that is what I have heard as well.
Mel Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 » That famous face & salute that adourns the FOH emblem was perhaps the » twentieth century's most famous cigar smoker. » » Q1........ How many cigars did he reportedly smoke in his lifetime ? » » 30,000» Q2......... Which cuban firm was the first to name a cigar after him ? » » ?Montecristo » Q3.......... Apart from smoking and drinking what was Sir Winston's other » great passion and hobby ? » Women and cards» Hell I don't know anything about the guy but waiting to se the answers.
genevapics Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 Question No.1: Somewhere in the vicinity of 225,000 - 250,000. Question No.2: Romeo y Julieta created the Churchill size back in the 1910's. This size cigar was first created for French Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau. RyJ named this size the Clemenceau and put them into circulation sometime after the post-World War I peace conference at Versailles. During World War II, RyJ provided an unlimited amount of cigars to British Prime Minister Winston Churchill. His preferred size was the Clemenceau. In 1947, Sir Winston Churchill visited the RyJ factory and the cigars were put into permanent circulation with the new name, Churchill. [NOTE: Source Min Ron NEE Encyclopaedia.] Question No.3: I believe he loved horses and horse racing. If I am not mistaken he had many thoroughbreds (sp?).
Ken Gargett Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 at the festival dinner this year in havana, they claimed that during his stint reporting on the war at the turn of the century, when he was there for around four years, he smoked 200,000 during that time alone. however, if you do the maths... great lover of champagne. very close to the pol roger family. from memory, think he proposed, unsuccessfully, to one of the daughters - think it was odette. named his racehorse pol roger. drank thousands of bottles. the champenois actually brought in a new sized bottle for him. he liked to drink a bottle before lunch but his wife would nag him and he didn't think a half was near enough (actually, he liked to drink magnums). so they brought in the pint sized champers bottle. not seen today. when he died, pol put a black band around all their non vintage wines destined for the uk market. may still be there but i think it was supposed to be for ten years. they also named their prestige cuvee, sir winston churchill, and when they released their first, the 1975, they did so at blenheim castle. he also won a nobel prize but not the peace prize. he won it for literature.
skid11 Posted March 26, 2006 Author Posted March 26, 2006 Ken........................... Interesting about his passion for Champagne as well as cigars. Odette was perhaps best known in Britain for her friendship with Sir Winston Churchill, who wisely prized Champagne above all other drinks, and Pol-Roger above all other Champagnes. "Champagne imparts a feeling of exhilaration," he believed. "The nerves are braced, the imagination is equally stirred; the wits become more nimble." He recalled too, some words of Napoleon: "I cannot live without Champagne. In victory I deserve it, and in defeat I need it." Churchill had been a loyal customer of the firm since 1908, but his friendship with the family did not begin until 1945, when he was introduced to Odette Pol-Roger by Alfred Duff-Cooper at the British Embassy's Armistice Day party in Paris. The Prime Minister, who had a romantic admiration for France, was captivated by Mme. Pol-Roger's elegance and beauty, as he was by the Champagne served at lunch that day, Pol-Roger 1928, a full-bodied vintage. So began a harmless flirtation (indulged by Mrs. Clementine Churchill) that lasted until Sir Winston's death in 1965. When he left France, he gave instructions that every time he returned to Paris, Odette Pol-Roger was to be invited to dinner. In 1947, at the Duff-Coopers' leaving ball, Churchill made his entrance on the arm of Mme. Pol-Roger, who was wearing red satin. Each year on his birthday, Odette Pol-Roger would dispatch Churchill a case of vintage Champagne - usually the 1928 until supplies ran out in 1953. Thereafter she reserved the choicest wine for him; by 1965, he had only worked his way through to the harvest of 1934! In return Churchill sent her a copy of his memoirs inscribed with the words "Cuvée de Reserve/ Mise en bouteille au chateau Chartwell", his palatial home in Kent. He also proclaimed her home - 44 Avenue de Champagne, Epernay - to be "the world's most drinkable address". "Invite me to Epernay," he declared, "and I will press the grapes with my feet." It was a vivid image, but he was sadly never to visit Champagne. He did, however, name his favourite racehorse after Odette Pol-Roger, and in 1952 asked her to Brighton races to see the horse run. She was not victorious that time ("Oh that mare," recalled Mme. Pol-Roger, "we had such trouble with her."), but on the day of the Queen's Coronation she did win the Black Prince Stakes at Kempton Park. When Churchill died, Odette Pol-Roger was one of those on the short list of personal friends invited to attend his state funeral service at St Paul's Cathedral. Afterwards, the Pol-Rogers searched for a suitable tribute to him, and found it by deciding henceforth to border their bottle labels in black. (Sourced from the Daily Telegraph archives)
skid11 Posted March 26, 2006 Author Posted March 26, 2006 Q1 We seem to have a wide range of between 30,000 and 300,000 so the maths may shed some light............. Winston was born on 30th Nov 1874 and died on 24th Jan 1965. This gives us a ripe ol life span of around 90 years. He probably started smoking at the age of 21 when he first entered the Royal Military College at Sandhurst in 1895. So we can roughly say that he may have smoked potentially 69 years of his life. If he smoked approximately 5 cigars a day, on average this would equate to (5 X 365) X 69 = 126,000 cigars If he smoked 10 cigars a day this would = 252,000 If he smoked 15 cigars a day this would = 378,000 These figures are as rough as one of El Prez's plugged finest and serve only as a guide. Sir Winston was reported to only smoke a half to two thirds of his cigar at best, this would still take around 1 hour to complete. So 15 cigars a day would equate to 15 hours of smoking ......... ? Almost physically impossible to sustain this average. I would think that some where between 5 and 10 cigars a day would be closer to the mark. This puts it between 125,000 to 250,000 cigars in his lifetime.
skid11 Posted March 26, 2006 Author Posted March 26, 2006 Q2 genevapics described it nicely.......... Romeo y Julieta The brand is credited with introducing the 'Churchill' shaped cigar, in honour of the famed British Prime Minister. British lore claims that when Churchill would meet with foreign heads of state, he would insert a straightened paper-clip through the length of his cigar. As his cigar ash would grow longer and longer but not fall, it is said that Churchill would unnerve his often-hostile guests, allowing him to gain an upper hand during delicate negotiations.( I like this guy !! :-D ) This size of cigar was actually first created for the French Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau and named this size the "Clemenceau". This was changed to the "Churchill" that we know today.
El Presidente Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Ken probably new Winston. Smoked on average 8 Churchills per day. My understanding was that he enjoyed in the proximity of 200,000 cigars in his lifetime. I could not think of a better role model for FOH. Loved Cigars, Loved Champagne, Stood up to Nazism and Fascism when others crumbled. Was intollerant of fools. Had more personal deamons than any man should. Lived to 91. One of the great men of the 20th Century.
Ken Gargett Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 » Had more personal deamons than any man should. what is a 'deamon'?
skid11 Posted March 29, 2006 Author Posted March 29, 2006 A "deamon" is a nearly famous person who stands behind another famous person wearing a silly bowtie !
skid11 Posted November 15, 2008 Author Posted November 15, 2008 That famous face & salute that adourns the FOH emblem was perhaps the twentieth century's most famous cigar smoker. Q1........ How many cigars did he reportedly smoke in his lifetime ? Q2......... Which cuban firm was the first to name a cigar after him ? Q3.......... Apart from smoking and drinking what was Sir Winston's other great passion and hobby ?
skid11 Posted November 15, 2008 Author Posted November 15, 2008 Q3 This was of a bit of an opened ended question as he did indeed have many interests and hobbies. But his true passion was painting Love this picture colt........ This has been good fun guys. Viva FOH And to end with a Churchill Quote................Lady Astor: "Winston, if I were your wife I'd put poison in your coffee." Winston: "Nancy, if I were your husband I'd drink it." Skid :-P
Colt45 Posted November 15, 2008 Posted November 15, 2008 Picture taken in 1940 with a 1928 Thompson. The British were the first to use the Thompson in WWII. Quiz Question: Boxers, Briefs or Commando?
habanohal Posted November 15, 2008 Posted November 15, 2008 » That famous face & salute that adourns the FOH emblem was perhaps the » twentieth century's most famous cigar smoker. » » Q1........ How many cigars did he reportedly smoke in his lifetime ? » » » Q2......... Which cuban firm was the first to name a cigar after him ? » » » Q3.......... Apart from smoking and drinking what was Sir Winston's other » great passion and hobby ? » » Question #2 is a definate RYJ Churchhill 1- No idea but I would say ALOT!!! #3- A guess would be marksmanship ( guns)
genevapics Posted November 15, 2008 Posted November 15, 2008 Come on, you know he was rolling Commando style! With a name like Winston... nothing else would do! :-D »
mongboy Posted November 15, 2008 Posted November 15, 2008 » That famous face & salute that adourns the FOH emblem was perhaps the » twentieth century's most famous cigar smoker. » » Q1........ How many cigars did he reportedly smoke in his lifetime ? » About 300,000 » » Q2......... Which cuban firm was the first to name a cigar after him ? » Stab in the dark... RyJ » » Q3.......... Apart from smoking and drinking what was Sir Winston's other » great passion and hobby ? » Painting Lock it in Eddie »
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