Sherry and Cigars

[connoiseur29]

Who here has had experience with sherry and cigars?

I have my favorites, but I was curious what you all have tried and enjoy?

Mine are Don Pedro Ximenez 1975, 1971, and 2000 in that order, as well as Graham's Six Grapes that has at least 20 years on it.

Any thoughts?

[cigarnv]

» Who here has had experience with sherry and cigars?

»

» I have my favorites, but I was curious what you all have tried and enjoy?

»

» Mine are Don Pedro Ximenez 1975, 1971, and 2000 in that order, as well as

» Graham's Six Grapes that has at least 20 years on it.

»

» Any thoughts?

I find cigars and sweet sherry make one of the best combinations. I personally enjoy the LUSTAU EAST INDIA SOLERA SHERRY as it is not as sweet or viscous as the Don Pedro Ximenez, which I enjoy as an after dinner drink. I am in fact enjoying a Monte tubo 1985 with a East India as we speak.....

[El Presidente]

The Ultimate.

At CZAR HOUSE we serve a complimentary glass of Cardinal Cisneros Pedro Ximinez Sherry.

For me it is the ulimate Sherry to enjoy with a cigar. It leaves all Ports or Tokays in it's dust.

[Wiley]

Okay, with that kind of recommendation, I'll need to find some.

[Taino]

PUAJ!!! sorry mate, don't like sweet drinks

[skid11]

El Prez I love a good Muscat with a cigar and have sung the praises of many good Australian Muscat producers, but I'll take your advice on trying a nice drop of sherry. The complimentary drop sounds very nice.;-)

[cigarnv]

Cardinal Cisneros Pedro Ximinez Sherry..... liquid fruitcake!!

[Wiley]

» The Ultimate.

»

» At CZAR HOUSE we serve a complimentary glass of Cardinal Cisneros Pedro

» Ximinez Sherry.

»

» For me it is the ulimate Sherry to enjoy with a cigar. It leaves all Ports

» or Tokays in it's dust.

Found some. Ordered it. If it sucks I blame you!

[pizzabob]

» Who here has had experience with sherry and cigars?

»

Well, there was Sherry from Irvine ... she was a brunette and just

loved cigars. Then there was Sherry from Redlands , but she was not

real fond of my partaking in the leaf so I had to get rid of her.

I had a client named Sherry, but we never shared a cigar, so she doesnt count.

Insofar as the libations, it must be Grand Marnier Cent-Centenaire

(150 year aniversary issue) along side a nice Bolivar.

... I needed another post:-D

[El Presidente]

» » Who here has had experience with sherry and cigars?

» »

»

»

» Well, there was Sherry from Irvine ... she was a brunette and just

»

» loved cigars. Then there was Sherry from Redlands , but she was

» not

» real fond of my partaking in the leaf so I had to get rid of her.

» I had a client named Sherry, but we never shared a cigar, so she doesnt

» count.

»

»

» Insofar as the libations, it must be Grand Marnier Cent-Centenaire

» (150 year aniversary issue) along side a nice Bolivar.

»

» ... I needed another post:-D

!LOL! Pizzabob

Wiley...you will love it. Just remember a little goes a loooooooooong way.

[Ken Gargett]

had a 30 year old oloroso at the end of a long lunch in barcelona recently that was so good i can't even remember the cigar i had - think it was a hamlet robusto (the roller, not the ferrari ad). huge fan of sherry. think it the most versatile of all drinks. how anyone gets through a queensland summer without a bottle of manzanilla in the fridge is beyond me. not sure that the best blow away the best ports etc but they are superb.

[Wiley]

» » » Who here has had experience with sherry and cigars?

» » »

» »

» »

» » Well, there was Sherry from Irvine ... she was a brunette and

» just

» »

» » loved cigars. Then there was Sherry from Redlands , but she was

» » not

» » real fond of my partaking in the leaf so I had to get rid of her.

» » I had a client named Sherry, but we never shared a cigar, so she doesnt

» » count.

» »

» »

» » Insofar as the libations, it must be Grand Marnier Cent-Centenaire

» » (150 year aniversary issue) along side a nice Bolivar.

» »

» » ... I needed another post:-D

»

» !LOL! Pizzabob

»

» Wiley...you will love it. Just remember a little goes a loooooooooong way.

It came today. Me like!

[skid11]

Can anyone recommend a good Sherry ? (Available in Aussie) I'm off to the wine shop to stock up on a few vinos and want to add a couple of bottles of sherry:-|

[El Presidente]

» Can anyone recommend a good Sherry ? (Available in Aussie) I'm off to the

» wine shop to stock up on a few vinos and want to add a couple of bottles

» of sherry:-|

The most likely available Sherry is Pedro Ximinez is Lustau. Available from the Emporium Bottle shop and Cru Bar Bottle Shop. About $45

[Ken Gargett]

» Can anyone recommend a good Sherry ? (Available in Aussie) I'm off to the

» wine shop to stock up on a few vinos and want to add a couple of bottles

» of sherry:-|

depends entirely on the style you are after. rich and sweet then px but if bone dry (a real joy if served cold and fresh) then fino and manzanilla. and a host in between.

what i would suggest is that you email scott wasley on [email protected] and tell him your whereabouts, the style you want and ask him to recommend the nearest bottleshop. he brings in the superb romate range and delgado (their manzanilla is fabulous). if you find any lustau, definitely worth trying.

[skid11]

Thanks El Prez & Ken will do.

[Wiley]

» » Can anyone recommend a good Sherry ? (Available in Aussie) I'm off to the

»

» » wine shop to stock up on a few vinos and want to add a couple of

» bottles

» » of sherry:-|

»

» depends entirely on the style you are after. rich and sweet then px but if

» bone dry (a real joy if served cold and fresh) then fino and manzanilla.

» and a host in between.

» what i would suggest is that you email scott wasley on

» [email protected] and tell him your whereabouts, the style

» you want and ask him to recommend the nearest bottleshop. he brings in the

» superb romate range and delgado (their manzanilla is fabulous). if you find

» any lustau, definitely worth trying.

Okay Ken, not sure if we're talking about the same sherry, but the one I had earlier today contained both "Manzanilla" and "Lustau" in the name, and it was far and away the most vile grape-derived substance I've ever had.

It was a pale yellow. A "light" sherry.

[Ken Gargett]

lustau is the producer and manzanilla the style - a type of fino. that is the bone dry end of things and manzanilla will often have a slightly salty or oystershell character, that is put down to the fact that manzanilla must come from the sanlucar region which is closer to the ocean than jerez (where the similar style of wine is called fino).

lustau is considered one of the very finest of all producers but if you didn't like it then good indication that the drier styles are not for you. try px - the extreme - or an oloroso. some are theoretically dry but in reality very few are. not as super sweet as px.

[El Presidente]

Wiley.

This is what happens when you take Ken's recommendations.

I despise Manzanilla. Light green purile piss.

Purchase Pedro Ximinez (grape variety) only. The rest is for wine writers to spoof on aimlessly about their "dry and bracing charachteristics"

No offence intended Ken :-D

[skid11]

Ken

I took your advise my friend and sourced a bottled of Lustau, Manzanilla it also had Papirusa written on the label ?

Your description of "bone dry, oystershell salty sea flavours" mixed in with Rob's description of light green purile piss flowed through my mind as I took in the aroma and gently sipped on this "expensive" rare nectar..............

ROB WHY DIDNT YOU WARN ME EARLIER .. It was bloody horrible. My wife who also took a sip nearly threw up. I Said to my wife this can't be Ken is a master of all things, a man I respect and honour...........:-| Maybe it grows on you after another glass I thought......... :-| It did'nt it was just as bloody horribly, I'm sure it is only for a discerning educated palate (Ken I have a 3/4 full bottle you can have mate)

Rob I'm off to buy a bottle of Pedro Ximenez, failing that it's back to the muscat.

[Wiley]

Thanks Ken, I'll keep a look out for those two.

[Ken Gargett]

» Ken

»

» I took your advise my friend and sourced a bottled of Lustau, Manzanilla

» it also had Papirusa written on the label ?

»

» Your description of "bone dry, oystershell salty sea flavours" mixed in

» with Rob's description of light green purile piss flowed through my mind

» as I took in the aroma and gently sipped on this "expensive" rare

» nectar..............

» ROB WHY DIDNT YOU WARN ME EARLIER .. It was bloody horrible.

» My wife who also took a sip nearly threw up. I Said to my wife this can't

» be Ken is a master of all things, a man I respect and honour...........:-|

» Maybe it grows on you after another glass I thought......... :-| It did'nt

» it was just as bloody horribly, I'm sure it is only for a discerning

» educated palate (Ken I have a 3/4 full bottle you can have mate)

»

» Rob I'm off to buy a bottle of Pedro Ximenez, failing that it's back to

» the muscat.

there is no doubt that searingly dry sherry is not for everyone. call it an acquired taste or whatever. those that love it can be fanatical. those that don't often have a similar reaction to this. (unless it had a mouldy taste in which case you got a corked bottle which is rare but not unknown - though i suspect i'll have trouble convincing you to try another). the px will be incredibly sweet and at the absolute other extreme. px and sherry are about as different as champagne and port.

[skid11]

Thanks Ken, I know it's hard trying to recommend a particular wine to someone and you did suggest options for if you prefer sweet or dry. I was just intrigued to try it. I can see that it would be an acquired taste as it is very light and dry. My previous experience with Sherry has only been sweet stuff (Harvey's Bristol) that my dear ol' mum keeps in the cupboard for special occasions.

I find a touch of sweetness goes really well with a cigar hence I still enjoy a good Muscat or a sticky.

I'm always game to try new wines so I might give the PX a shot.

Are there any good Australian Sherry's ?

Cheers Mate.;-)

[Ken Gargett]

»

» Are there any good Australian Sherry's ?

»

» Cheers Mate.;-)

there are some - lindemans and seppelts over the years, that are not bad but with the price for the real stuff so low, why bother. if going sweet and australian, go the muscats and tokays.

[Wiley]

The one and only bottle of muscat I've ever had was from Australia, and it was fantastic. "Yalumba Museum Reserve Muscat NV"