Cuban Cigars that no longer have a place? The Habanos Friendless list.

[Montezüma]

9 hours ago, Allroz said:

Are you saying the Shorts would be your choice between MF and the Supers, or these no longer have a place? I might be in the minority camp but I personally don't see the value in Party Shorts nor do I get the hype, and I'm a big Partagas fan. 

Definitely agreed on the RASCC having significant value at its price point. 

The Shorts are great cigars, yes they do need a bit of age on them but compared to the MF, Super and Aristocrats - I think the Shorts are superior. Which one is your pick?

[Allroz]

On 3/11/2026 at 2:49 PM, Montezüma said:

The Shorts are great cigars, yes they do need a bit of age on them but compared to the MF, Super and Aristocrats - I think the Shorts are superior. Which one is your pick?

I have not had anything but the Shorts from those three; I’ve gone through about a box but unfortunately have been underwhelmed. I’ll let them sit a while longer and revisit based on what you said. 

[Ford2112]

How many RyJ vitolas could get the axe in favor of a much needed breathe of life into some of the other neglected marcas? 

[SUP8333]

On 3/10/2026 at 5:00 AM, Gubbins said:

Don’t see the point in Partagas Mille Fleurs. The Aristocrats are nicer and you also have the super Partagas.

My friend, I just smoked an '07 Mille Fleurs and pants flew right off, no!!!!

[JDoughty]

55 minutes ago, SUP8333 said:

My friend, I just smoked an '07 Mille Fleurs and pants flew right off, no!!!!

This. You will have to pry my Partagas Mille Fleurs out of my cold, dead hands. Put a few years on them and they are delectable. Cedar, coffee and cream notes all the way.