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I fail to see how a movie centered around child abandonment slots above one in which a marriage is saved as a 'Christmas' movie. Even KFC's 'Recipe for Seduction' seems to qualify as one.

I'll need to see a definition of 'Christmas movie' before it can be determined. Without that, we only have belief...which may be another qualification of said movie type. 🤷‍♂️😂

Cheers!

 

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On 12/5/2025 at 11:35 AM, Hoosh said:

When I saw the thread title, I for sure thought I was going to open it to see this:

This is the correct take. Any other Christmas movie is a distant 2nd.

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5 hours ago, ha_banos said:

Next we'll be debating the loneliness, suffering and redemption that's the dark thematic Christmas spirit in Rambo.

I mean...there's a Christmas tree in the first one......so...

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5 hours ago, ha_banos said:

Next we'll be debating the loneliness, suffering and redemption that's the dark thematic Christmas spirit in Rambo.

Interesting. Both are considerably more complex than 'super successful business woman finds time for love on the holidays. And more watchable, lol!

Cheers!

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6 hours ago, riderpride said:

I'll need to see a definition of 'Christmas movie' before it can be determined.

Agreed 100% 🙏

That being said, it is a Christmas movie and I can't help but wonder why the question is still debated 🤷

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On 12/8/2025 at 5:03 PM, Li Bai said:

Agreed 100% 🙏

That being said, it is a Christmas movie and I can't help but wonder why the question is still debated 🤷

I'll petition to have you recognized as FOH's subject matter expert for Christmas flicks. Issue shouldn't come up again 😂

Cheers!

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I'm sat here drinking Allachie 8 yo quarter cask strength. And I'm discussing with Perplexity. Posing the tough questions to ensure I'm not missing anything. Expecting to be challenged. Here's what it's relented with... 

The film never really invites the audience to see events as miraculous in a religious or even quasi-magical sense. Survival is attributed to John’s skill, toughness, and luck; villains die because he outsmarts them; the “snowfall” of paper at the end is a visual flourish, not treated as a sign of providence. No character speaks about being spared, blessed, or given a second chance by anything beyond their own efforts and circumstance. So if “Christmas movie” implies explicit miracles, grace, or divine intervention, Die Hard does not deliver that; it tells a grounded, hero-centric story that just happens to unfold on Christmas Eve.

If someone defines Christmas values as gratitude, charity, thinking beyond oneself, and a sense of grace or undeserved blessing, Die Hard only brushes against that through a narrow family lens and some visual/aesthetic cues. Under that standard, what you are calling “self regret and pity” really is the main emotional engine, and the Christmas angle mostly decorates a standard action-hero redemption of his marriage rather than opening into a richer, outward-facing Christmas ethic.

I rest my case. 🥃 Where my support? Gruber got your balls in his Hans?

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6 hours ago, MoeFOH said:

But... "It's Christmas, Theo, it's the time of miracles." - Hans Gruber :D

He mocks Christmas as you mock us. Next you'll be remembering Holly's Rolex wasn't even an Xmas gift, but a performance reward. 😝

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6 hours ago, ha_banos said:

Next you'll be remembering Holly's Rolex wasn't even an Xmas gift, but a performance reward.

Who? Holly... oh right, interesting choice of name. :D 

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6 hours ago, MoeFOH said:

Who? Holly... oh right, interesting choice of name. :D 

Strip the tinsel and thin veil of holly away reveals standard 80s cop-hero tropes. Cashing in on the free marketing Christmas brings. Freeloaders.🎄

How's that for anti Christmas? I'm knackered. It's bedtime!

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7 hours ago, riderpride said:

I'll petition to have you recognized as FOH's subject matter expert for Christmas flicks. Issue shouldn't come up again 😂

Cheers!

Unfortunately I don't think I could live up to it.

To me, one of the goat Christmas movies is "Groundhog day" and I'm not even ashamed to say it out loud 😁

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how on earth is Die Hard not a Christmas movie? what, people got killed? people die in that's a wonderful life. ruling that out? 

so a poll of 2000 poms said no - mind you, read the article and 44% said no, while 38% said it was and 17% were not sure (yes, the Guardian can't even count). so hardly overwhelming. 

remember that this is the same nation where about 95% said they would win the Ashes 5-0. how is that going for them? the same nation that voted for Brexit and had remorse before dawn. you really want to rely on these people on an issue so important? 

i watched Champagne Problems, the other night. before anyone starts, i was intrigued to see how they would treat the champagne aspects - not all that well, as it happens. one of the characters is German and he has a very different take on Die Hard. Hans Gruber was the good guy on a mission to defend the world against the evil Nakatomi company. hey, one man's terrorist...

 

 

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Die Hard not a Christmas movie? Next you'll be telling me Lethal Weapon, The Long Kiss Goodnight, 12 Monkeys, Gremlins, Invasion USA, Reindeer Games, Batman Returns, or Fatman are not Christmas movies!

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