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I would like it. They're quite expensive and desirable. They can stay, but they're getting a terrarium. Pantry pythons are too messy. 

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16 hours ago, JDoughty said:

I would like it. They're quite expensive and desirable. They can stay, but they're getting a terrarium. Pantry pythons are too messy. 

plenty around here. as for a terrarium, would need to be a monster-sized one. 

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10 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

plenty around here. as for a terrarium, would need to be a monster-sized one. 

They did very well in the zoo exhibit I worked in for years, the habitat wasn't huge as they don't need as much proportional space as some other critters do to be happy and healthy. 

As much fun as it would be to roam around in Australia scooping up snakes, the export process is a bit of a rough road. If it was possible, I'd mainly be grabbing at your elapids as those are considerably harder to come by here. 

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6 hours ago, JDoughty said:

They did very well in the zoo exhibit I worked in for years, the habitat wasn't huge as they don't need as much proportional space as some other critters do to be happy and healthy. 

As much fun as it would be to roam around in Australia scooping up snakes, the export process is a bit of a rough road. If it was possible, I'd mainly be grabbing at your elapids as those are considerably harder to come by here. 

they do like to stick to their territory. at the old place, the biggest i had was a touch over 13 feet. grumpy snake. we removed him further out into the bush and he was replaced by one around nine feet soon after. if they have plenty of food, they are not going anywhere.

because of black market snakes, the authorities are extremely strict on this now. exporting very tough. 

these days, i'll leave the venomous ones to you. 

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8 hours ago, Ken Gargett said:

they do like to stick to their territory. at the old place, the biggest i had was a touch over 13 feet. grumpy snake. we removed him further out into the bush and he was replaced by one around nine feet soon after. if they have plenty of food, they are not going anywhere.

because of black market snakes, the authorities are extremely strict on this now. exporting very tough. 

these days, i'll leave the venomous ones to you. 

The ones at the zoos I've worked at were the slightly smaller breeds; we don't as often see the biggest subspecies being captive bred in the States. They're very calm when captive raised and very popular in the snake hobby. Your elapids are a bit wiggly but not very difficult with the proper tools. A good bagstick makes it pretty low fuss to manage them. I would love to get hold of some Notechis but those are nearly impossible in the States even for zoos. 

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6 hours ago, JDoughty said:

The ones at the zoos I've worked at were the slightly smaller breeds; we don't as often see the biggest subspecies being captive bred in the States. They're very calm when captive raised and very popular in the snake hobby. Your elapids are a bit wiggly but not very difficult with the proper tools. A good bagstick makes it pretty low fuss to manage them. I would love to get hold of some Notechis but those are nearly impossible in the States even for zoos. 

tigers not uncommon throughout lots of Australia, especially the south. but even up here, we occasionally see them. one over at my sister's - she is ten minutes from me - recently. the browns, you can have. not playing with them with snake stick, bag and explosives. they can be seriously nasty. but like pretty much all of them, they'll normally bugger off if they get the chance. occasionally a brown will get aggressive. then you are in strife. 

had a quick look before. now illegal to export any Aussie native snake. no doubt possible exceptions for zoos but they'd be very heavily regulated. 

just on snake sticks, one of my all-time fave possessions, is a stick i found in a dry creek bed in the Cameroons several decades ago. usually take it when walking. has a small V at one end. solid but not too heavy. i have no doubt it was originally a stick for catching snakes. someone must have lost it. i was surprised Aussie customs had no issue me bringing it in. i have used it with snakes, but also magpies and dogs. and my dud knee. 

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I'm quite fond of my snake hooks as well. I prefer ultralight ones for elapids and heavier duty flattish ones for viperids to give them a comfier ride. Never managed to get my hands on any Notechis, they're downright unobtainum in the States, so I'm stuck envying my Aus colleagues. Have worked with taipans, death adders, red-bellied black snakes and one insanely wiggly Eastern brown. They're a bit different biomechanically and behaviorally from the Asian and African elapids, but I wouldn't say they were prone to aggression. Ridiculously thrashy and wiggly though. Midwest bagstick is what keeps them easy to manage and funnel right into a tube for lab work or vet care. 

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