Jean Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 Given that date boxed can differ from date rolled,and therefore different "batches" can constitute a box,how common is it for 2 sticks from same box smoked 1 day apart accompanied by say a cup of coffee as a common denominator be so different?.Monte 4 I just smoked was totally different from the one I smoked yesterday.How often does this happen to you?
jerrybrowne Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 This happens all the time. I’ve had great sticks and crap all in the same box. Keeps you on your toes ;-) 2
BrightonCorgi Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 Once the tobacco is divided and rolled, they are then sorted by color. One cigar could be from one roller on one side of the floor and another from the opposite side. The filler or binder could've differed in look or quality some. I don't know how many days if more than one day go into a batch of cigars before being boxed up. I'd like to think or assume that a box of cigars is from one day's rolling at that factory. Does anyone know for sure?
Fugu Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 53 minutes ago, BrightonCorgi said: I don't know how many days if more than one day go into a batch of cigars before being boxed up. I'd like to think or assume that a box of cigars is from one day's rolling at that factory. Does anyone know for sure? Not sure (who could ever be...), but following the sequential logic of production steps, it is likely to comprise a much wider temporal stretch. Cigars are only colour-sorted to boxes after coming back from the escaparate. And there, they will have stayed for a couple of weeks usually, so likely to combine several production days in the end... 1 1
shlomo Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, BrightonCorgi said: Once the tobacco is divided and rolled, they are then sorted by color. One cigar could be from one roller on one side of the floor and another from the opposite side. The filler or binder could've differed in look or quality some. I don't know how many days if more than one day go into a batch of cigars before being boxed up. I'd like to think or assume that a box of cigars is from one day's rolling at that factory. Does anyone know for sure? I know for sure that this is Cuba, and anything can happen. I have no way of knowing for sure, but would be VERY skeptical of anybody telling me it is all boxed from a same day batch or even from the same rolling factory... Once cigars are rolled, if they are missing 3 PSD4 from a box, there is no doubt in my mind that they will simply take cigars slated to be another robusto and slap a PSD4 band on it.
Derboesekoenig Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, shlomo said: I know for sure that this is Cuba, and anything can happen. I have no way of knowing for sure, but would be VERY skeptical of anybody telling me it is all boxed from a same day batch or even from the same rolling factory... Once cigars are rolled, if they are missing 3 PSD4 from a box, there is no doubt in my mind that they will simply take cigars slated to be another robusto and slap a PSD4 band on it. I realize Cuba doesn't always have the best consistency, but I can't see them taking different robusto marcas and mixing them. Different marcas = dif blends. But hey, who knows
JGD Posted July 17, 2018 Posted July 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, shlomo said: I know for sure that this is Cuba, and anything can happen. I have no way of knowing for sure, but would be VERY skeptical of anybody telling me it is all boxed from a same day batch or even from the same rolling factory... Once cigars are rolled, if they are missing 3 PSD4 from a box, there is no doubt in my mind that they will simply take cigars slated to be another robusto and slap a PSD4 band on it. While certainly anything can happen, I would be surprised if this would be the case. After rolling, they cigars are sent to the sorting room and put in giant batches by cigar. I certainly got the sense (although I cannot say for sure) that the process is somewhat ongoing. Meaning that the cigars just continually get brought to the sorting room, so they would never really find themselves in a position where they would need to grab from other bins or get a few more cigars from another factory. But, as you said, anything can happen in Cuba. 1
BuzzArd Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Jean said: How often does this happen to you? Only during annual blind tasting competitions..... 1
shlomo Posted July 18, 2018 Posted July 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Derboesekoenig said: I realize Cuba doesn't always have the best consistency, but I can't see them taking different robusto marcas and mixing them. Different marcas = dif blends. But hey, who knows 6 hours ago, JGD said: While certainly anything can happen, I would be surprised if this would be the case. After rolling, they cigars are sent to the sorting room and put in giant batches by cigar. I certainly got the sense (although I cannot say for sure) that the process is somewhat ongoing. Meaning that the cigars just continually get brought to the sorting room, so they would never really find themselves in a position where they would need to grab from other bins or get a few more cigars from another factory. But, as you said, anything can happen in Cuba. Let me put it this way, while I have no firsthand experience with the different cigars being labeled differently depending on need, I have been told this exact situation happens regularly from someone who does have firsthand knowledge. That doesn't mean he wasn't blowing smoke up my ass, and I certainly don't automatically believe everything a virtual stranger says, but there is logic to it, so it certainly is plausible. It never stopped me from buying cigars in the past and won't in the future. Of course I would like better QC in terms of distinct and unique flavours from each unique cigar marca/vitola, but since I basically taste a cigar as "good" or "bad", it makes little difference in my world. 1
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