2013 Sir Winston

[Orion21]

Has anyone bought a box from this year? What is your opinion? Is this a good year for them compared to others? I appreciate the feedback.

[Faire]

I bought one 2 weeks ago but it's dated Dec 2012. Haven't smoked one so far..

[Ginseng]

Do you mean with a 2013 box code? I can't imagine anyone other than perhaps Prez, cuz it's his job, would smoke one...even to try.

Wilkey

[Orion21]

Yes, the 2013 box code. Considering how approachable most of the 2011-2013 stereotypical "lay down" cigars have been (RyJ Cazzie is a good example) I was wondering about the 2013 Winnie.

[Faire]

Do you mean with a 2013 box code? I can't imagine anyone other than perhaps Prez, cuz it's his job, would smoke one...even to try.

Wilkey

Is it because no cigar must be smoked within the same box code year ? or particularly Sir Winston?

[Ginseng]

Particular to the Sir Winston and other cigars that have historically required a little (or a lot) of time to be considered "ready" for smoking and enjoyment. Mind you, if you want to and have the intent to get a sense of what a young Sir Winston smokes like, by all means do so. In fact, folks should probably do it once. It's just that these are pretty expensive cigars and always develop favorably over time.

I have a box of 2001 that are starting just now to show some meaningful character although they were quite enjoyable as far back as 2006.

Wilkey

[Faire]

Particular to the Sir Winston and other cigars that have historically required a little (or a lot) of time to be considered "ready" for smoking and enjoyment. Mind you, if you want to and have the intent to get a sense of what a young Sir Winston smokes like, by all means do so. In fact, folks should probably do it once. It's just that these are pretty expensive cigars and always develop favorably over time.

I have a box of 2001 that are starting just now to show some meaningful character although they were quite enjoyable as far back as 2006.

Wilkey

So what you are saying is that my Dec 2012 box of Sir Winston should be ready and enjoyable to smoke around 2017/2018?

[Faire]

Being a cigar smoker since 8 months ago maybe... it's been a huge surprise that I must wait for years until I can enjoy the cigars that I buy. At least that I buy already aged cigars, which of course are more expensive that the young ones, being the price other surprise that I had when I start getting into the world of cigars. Hopefully these kind of surprises end sometime.

[Ginseng]

Hehe, who knows. If it were my box of 2012, I'd probably sample in 2014 or 2015. You just can't be in a hurry with these. RASS and Shorts, I'll smoke off the truck because occasionally I like a bracing smack to the face...but not the Sir Winstons.

Wilkey

[Ginseng]

Being a cigar smoker since 8 months ago maybe... it's been a huge surprise that I must wait for years until I can enjoy the cigars that I buy. At least that I buy already aged cigars, which of course are more expensive that the young ones, being the price other surprise that I had when I start getting into the world of cigars. Hopefully these kind of surprises end sometime.

The "surprise" of which you speak are the lore, traditions, and knowledge of the craft. It is the foundation of our hobby. If the surprises stopped, there wouldn't be much point in collecting and smoking Habanos.

That said, I understand your consternation. It's just that if you're 8 months in and want to be trying and experiencing now, there are some cigars that smoke better relatively young than others. This is something you learn and come to know. For example, I love RyJ Cazadores but would not smoke them with less than 3-5 years. They're a lot less brutal young than in years past, but they are still not what I'd describe as "enjoyable" smoked in their boxing year.

Think of it this way...when you have learned and experienced so much more by the time 2015 rolls around, you'll be so much better prepared to fully appreciate one of the remaining grand old cigars of Habanos.

It may not be much comfort today, but if you plan to grow with this hobby, today (your first 8 months) is just a first step.

Wilkey

[Faire]

The "surprise" of which you speak are the lore, traditions, and knowledge of the craft. It is the foundation of our hobby. If the surprises stopped, there wouldn't be much point in collecting and smoking Habanos.

That said, I understand your consternation. It's just that if you're 8 months in and want to be trying and experiencing now, there are some cigars that smoke better relatively young than others. This is something you learn and come to know. For example, I love RyJ Cazadores but would not smoke them with less than 3-5 years. They're a lot less brutal young than in years past, but they are still not what I'd describe as "enjoyable" smoked in their boxing year.

Think of it this way...when you have learned and experienced so much more by the time 2015 rolls around, you'll be so much better prepared to fully appreciate one of the remaining grand old cigars of Habanos.

It may not be much comfort today, but if you plan to grow with this hobby, today (your first 8 months) is just a first step.

Wilkey

Thank you buddy for the advices

[Zigatoh]

I love ryj cazzies as fresh as possible, each to their own, you'll learn what you like by trying

[oliverdst]

Orion, believe me, part of the fun is waiting

But sometimes it sucks.

[Vortigan]

Being a cigar smoker since 8 months ago maybe... it's been a huge surprise that I must wait for years until I can enjoy the cigars that I buy. At least that I buy already aged cigars, which of course are more expensive that the young ones, being the price other surprise that I had when I start getting into the world of cigars. Hopefully these kind of surprises end sometime.

Waiting and putting some age on your cigars does get easier as you go,I've found,and the rewards for doing so are huge.There's a real buzz about revisiting a box every 6 months or so and noting the development.That being said,whilst you're waiting for some there are always others that don't need quite so much coaxing,SLR Regios and PSD4 for example.MHO

[polarbear]

Personally, I cant afford to buy smokes that HAVE to rest

That's why I tend to stay away from Cohibas.

What I like to do is buy a box and smoke one every month or two and tract how they progress.

As soon as one has developed to a point where I am happy/impressed by it I order another box to sit on for a little while longer.

Each to thier own

For example, aged parti 898's don't do it for me but I like them with around a year on em.

[stogieluver]

I've found that developing the patience to wait for some of my sticks to age has become easier as my credit card balance and inventory has grown. I think there is a direct relationship between card balances to inventory to patience.

[Ginseng]

I love ryj cazzies as fresh as possible...

You must also like poison ivy salad and sea urchin popovers.

Wilkey

[Faire]

So I guess tonight's LFTH is a good opportunity to get some aged cigars?

[oliverdst]

So I guess tonight's LFTH is a good opportunity to get some aged cigars?

Sure it is.

But like you said before, they can be pricey (It doesn't mean it's not worth).

This is a personal choice (waiting versus paying).

[Faire]

Mmm i guess its worth getting some. I wonder why the cigar industry has not made continous production lines of aged cigars? Just like the whisky industry. Why they dont sell all the time "10 years old cigars" ? Just like a 12 years scotch.

[oliverdst]

Mmm i guess its worth getting some. I wonder why the cigar industry has not made continous production lines of aged cigars? Just like the whisky industry. Why they dont sell all the time "10 years old cigars" ? Just like a 12 years scotch.

You can also buy this sampler: http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=116420

[nikesupremedunk]

I had a couple so far from my 2013 box and it's been decent. I haven't had a good example of an aged SW so I have nothing to compare to.

[Lotusguy]

There is the PCC Vintage Program...

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[poorman]

I think there is a direct relationship between card balances to inventory to patience.

Exactly.

Have lots of patience at the moment.

[habanolover]

Not to dispute the excellent points made, but there are 25 in most boxes...my philosophy is try them and if I like, fine, smoke some now and stash some for later. Fact is starting out inventory is generally low so you smoke what you have...