Peter11216 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Hello All, I'm curious to know what you think about this cigar. I'm uploading five pictures. (1) of the cigar unwrapped. I count 7 filler leaves, plus the binder and wrapper, all are in good condition, supple, aside from two filler leaves. The odor of the leaves is pleasant, a little sweet and vegetal. The filler leaves have different odors, interestingly. (2) The inside of the band, which I ripped, has a pen written "282". (3) The stick is exactly 170mm. (4) The foot. (5) The entire stick. It looks like a well made cigar, and the odor is quite good to my nose. However, I've found that the draw is too tight, and the flavour is rather bland. I'd put the cigar at a medium or less strength, and almost one dimensional, although some have been better than others. For some reason, perhaps foolish, I was expecting this to be a much better cigar. I think my disappointment is really leading me to question the quality of the leaves, and hence the authenticity of the cigar. By the way, the packaging has code "BAP MAY 10" What think you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt45 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I'm far from expert with these things, so I won't comment on authenticity other than to say the cigar looks pretty good. With the leaves coming from different primings, different aging periods, oil contents, perhaps even processing times, etc, it would not surprise me at all if each had their own aromas. They are fairly young cigars, which might be something to keep in mind. But I'll add that I often get the feeling that when it comes to the Cohiba line, expectations often seem to be higher than the experience delivers - I'm not the biggest fan of the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcedCanuck Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 It looked ok to me but I don't have all that much experience under my belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankerT Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 From the pictures and description, nothing really screams obvious fake to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rob Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 By no means conclusive, though one thing that is common on fake Cohiba bands is visible on your band. The thickness of the gold rectangular box should be a fine, almost petite line. If you look at a known authentic Cohiba as a reference you'll see what I mean. Almost every modern day fake Cohiba band that I have seen had a unusually thick gold rectangular box. This doesnt mean that every thin lined band is evidence of authenticity. Oh, and that foot is terrible. Absolutely horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rob Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Oh, and judging by where the glue on the band was.... Im figuring this is quite lilely a fake. I cant imagine that the band could have been damged where it is (across the front) without some sort of weird glue application. I'm figuring this is why the last pic has the orientation of the cigar such that we cant see the front of the band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CigarGuy87 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Oh, and judging by where the glue on the band was.... Im figuring this is quite lilely a fake. I cant imagine that the band could have been damged where it is (across the front) without some sort of weird glue application. I'm figuring this is why the last pic has the orientation of the cigar such that we cant see the front of the band. Agreed. The details seem to be where this cigar is lacking authenticity; the band and the quality of the foot. I am no expert, and it could be some sort of "dud" cigar, but you don't see/expect that from Cohiba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanbeer Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 if this is fake, everyone must have been smoking fakes all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michel1968 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 The 'Habana, Cuba' font seems a bit too fine... But that's just the only thing I can find. If it's fake it's a really good one, if it's genuine it's a bit of a dud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkljkl Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 the only issue i can see is the roll in the foot looks very loose. band looks good. long filler looks good. the small font looks good. enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazer14 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Who rips apart a real Cohiba?? Thats my take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbeaver Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 The band seems a bit wonky... The comment about the thickness of the gold box seems legit, and the script seems kind off of too... But maybe printing was off that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jnaube Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Cigar looks ok for me.Even the band ond the last picture looks ok for me. If this is a fake, it's adamn good one. Btw, why would you rip apart a cigar like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacktarnold Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Even if it was a fake. I agree with above why would you cut it apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jnaube Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Had the same in a Super Ramon , RA exclusivo Canada. It was the first time i saw that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevieboy Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 The band looks like it's too long for the stick ie it's meant for a thicker cigar. In the last pic you see the band has been wrapped around more than it should be...?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rays98GoVols Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 The foot looks like it has some ugliness to it which could lead to the tight draw. Obviously you did not smoke this particualr one so there is no way of knowing if this cigar suffered from tightness. Aside from that, I've never noticed any writing under the band. Its no way a dead giveaway, but just curious to me. Other than that, I agree with Colt who says that expectations for Cohiba are just too high and this is what leads to dissapointment. Also the fact that the cigar is relatively young will affect it as well. I don't want to assume anything, but I find that Cohiba in particular benefits from much lower RH. I try to keep as many of mine in the 63% range and if your running your humi much higher (b/c most NCs enjoy higher) this could also lead to somewhat harsh, one dimensional and boring flavours. I don't like the look of the foot either. I also agree with the 'Cohiba mystique' that often taints the cigar because it is hard to live up to the hype. The only Cohibas that I like young (less than 3-4 years age) are the Siglo IV, which the 2011's and 2012's are smoking Great ROTT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMJoe Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 The band, specifically the rectangular border's dimension, which normally appears to be about half the width of the band making up the circumference gold band, but in your example it appears that both borders closely match in width, gives me pause. And, although I think the wrapper and filler are appropriate in color, appearance and presentation, the composite foot looks like K R A P. I am a Cohiba lover, but I do believe their value proposition is quite overstated,however, I would be surprised to see this example leaving the scrap heap. I hope I'm wrong and to borrow a widely used phrase in the Big Easy, K R A P happens. Good luck, my friend. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugman78629 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 By no means conclusive, though one thing that is common on fake Cohiba bands is visible on your band. The thickness of the gold rectangular box should be a fine, almost petite line. If you look at a known authentic Cohiba as a reference you'll see what I mean. Almost every modern day fake Cohiba band that I have seen had a unusually thick gold rectangular box. This doesnt mean that every thin lined band is evidence of authenticity. Oh, and that foot is terrible. Absolutely horrible. I agree....It looks like they tried using beef jerky strips as part of the filler............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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