acidmase Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 Okay today I decided I finally started researching about what type of handgun I wanted to pick up (Yes I have the proper paperwork/firearms permit), and I am really set on the Glock 19. My question is their any member out there with this handgun and if not, what can you guys recommend me? Please respond by personal messenger. Thanks.
patman24 Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 If I had the money, it would be this... A timeless piece, 1911. http://www.nighthawktactical.com/The_Enforcer.html
El Presidente Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 That's a steep price but a beautiful looking piece of machinery.... and I am not even into hand guns.
MIKA27 Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 Nice firearm but after using it and one is down on sustenance, you can eat the wafer hand grip. I myself do not own any hand guns but do own a couple rifles I used with my father for shooting. A 300 magnum 7mm Golden Eagle (For Deer shooting) as well as a couple shot guns. I'm not really into shooting any longer and as such, have been looking at selling them as they only just sit in the gun safe. My father owns a Luger P08 Pistol which is pretty cool, though not modern by any means, I have fired this and its quite a wonderful and accurate pistol for its time. The Glock looks great.
sandholm Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 Okay today I decided I finally started researching about what type of handgun I wanted to pick up (Yes I have the proper paperwork/firearms permit), and I am really set on the Glock 19. My question is their any member out there with this handgun and if not, what can you guys recommend me? Please respond by personal messenger. Thanks. Well, as an former soldier serving in several conflicts i believe that the only guns people should be allowed to own is hunting riffles, but if you are looking into a handgun you want something effective, not something that look cool. Colt is a classic, but also look into the Beretta, both the old 90 and 92 or the new (flashy) 90two. It wont let you down, If i remember correct the 19 weight in around 600 gram and the 90 around 900 grams, so a bit more heavy, but if something would happen i knew that the Beretta would be accurate and wouldn't fail. I always carried the 92 if i didn't carried the Famas. ( dont want to start a gun debate, but having a gun at home increase the risk of homicide with 1.9..., be safe)
El Presidente Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 ( dont want to start a gun debate, but having a gun at home increase the risk of homicide with 1.9..., be safe) God bless you .....we do not want to start a gun debate .....just answering the question raised
jawofboston Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 I shoot both pistol and rifle at the local gun club, and I'd say the answer to your question depends on why you're buying it. If it's just for some target shooting, I'm a huge fan of the .22. The Ruger Mark III is a nice gun that will cost you less than $300 in the US. You can shoot it for hours and not spend more than 20-30 dollars on ammo (a BIG consideration these days). If you're really thinking defense, either on your person or in your home, I am of the opinion that 9MM is just not enough caliber (especially if it's in your home). The way I see it the only way I would shoot another person is if they were in imminent danger of killing me or another person. In such a situation, you want them to go down and stay down. That's why I choose a 1911 (45 cal) for dealing with uninvited guests. Oh, and I also keep a Mossberg 12 gauage handy for more intractible problems!
Warren Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 Oh dear, a Tupperware gun. The police over here use them as their standard side arm and really I think the main advantage is that they are lighter to carry. As has been stated it comes down to what purpose you want this gun for. If it's just for plinking at the range then I have to agree that the good old 22LR is hard to beat for economy and accuracy. I don't shoot anymore but I used to be a competitive pistol shooter. I had a Smith and Wesson model 41 22 and won a state title with it so accuracy was not an issue and pardon the pun but it was a lot of bang for you buck. If you do have your heart set on a center fire pistol then I would also recommend the Colt 45. they sit lower in your hand so they point to target more naturally and with more weight to them than the Glock will also handle the recoil a bit better and this allows the pistol to get back on target a bit quicker.
kafreeman Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 If you plan on carrying, a Ruger LCP will fit right into your pocket with no holsters necessary. My mother in law carries one and you would never know it. It can be hard to keep hold of for me unless there is a grip extension on it. I have a Glock 26 and Glock 30 (9mm and .45 respectively). Wife carries the 26, I carry the 30. We dont really carry so much now since we moved unless we go hiking. I do like the 1911 firearms, my father in law has an older model and it shoots like a dream. He also has a Kel-Tek PF9 (9mm) that he carries in his pocket with a pocket holster. Can you concealed carry in NJ? It is my understanding it is very hard to get a permit there for it.
sharks Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 Spose it comes down to the purpose for the pistol, I'm assuming its for Self Defense Cant say much about the glocks never owned one, just never appealed to me Over the years I owned the Beretta 92F and it was so reliable WOW. Browning Hi-power she may be old but shes good. I have also owned full competition pistols. The old mans got a H&K that really fits well in my hand. http://hk-usa.com/civilian_products/usp_general.asp Just go to you local gun shop and see how they feel , are they comfortable will they suit the purpose, are they to bulky etc and go from there. If you can, try before you buy, can you handle the repeated recoil. I do enjoy the .40 cal though, maybe worth looking into. Here in Aus it is quite hard to get a pistol licence, and in most cases 99% you can only get one for sport. I got rid of mine in our last buy back, due to time restrictions with work Goodluck Sharks
drubcurtis Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 I shoot both pistol and rifle at the local gun club, and I'd say the answer to your question depends on why you're buying it. If it's just for some target shooting, I'm a huge fan of the .22. The Ruger Mark III is a nice gun that will cost you less than $300 in the US. You can shoot it for hours and not spend more than 20-30 dollars on ammo (a BIG consideration these days). If you're really thinking defense, either on your person or in your home, I am of the opinion that 9MM is just not enough caliber (especially if it's in your home). The way I see it the only way I would shoot another person is if they were in imminent danger of killing me or another person. In such a situation, you want them to go down and stay down. That's why I choose a 1911 (45 cal) for dealing with uninvited guests. Oh, and I also keep a Mossberg 12 gauage handy for more intractible problems! +1 Glocks have never appealed to me given the materials they are made from. Also, the safety features are very minimal. I own a Kimber Raptor 1911 model and it would be my choice time and time again. However, keeping in mind, I purchased the .45 for the purpose of keeping in the safe under my bed for family/personal protection...not for concealed carry. Here is a link to the Raptor line: http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/raptor/
thechenman Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 My personal opinion is that as far as which brand/model handgun to go with...that is a personal matter. It is best decided by visiting your local retailer, or attending a gun show where there will likely be more to select from. While there are cheap handguns that aren't worth a damn out there, I would not say that Glock would be among them. They are a reliable sidearm, albeit ugly IMHO. You need to handle a pistol and see how it fits in you hand, and feel the weight. I would never purchase pistol that I have not hed before. Even better to have the opportunity to fire it beforehand. The bigger question in my mind is 9mm vs .45ACP, or even a .22cal. As mentioned earlier, you can't beat a 22 for target shooting at the range. It is accurate, fun and economical. I'm also of the belieft that if personal protection is what you are going for...the 45 can't be beat for sheer stopping power. In my book the 45 is a far superior round to the 9, but again...it all comes down to purpose.
Colt45 Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 As the guys have mentioned, purpose plays a large part in choice. The G19 is relatively compact, so I'm assuming it will be for carry? If that is the case, I'd personally go with a small revolver in .38 such as a S&W Centennial or Ruger LCR or similar. Fool proof firing systems, can be fired from a pocket (no exposed hammers), no muss, no fuss. With regard to caliber, shot placement is key - a bazooka is useless if you miss your target. Also consider action type. The 1911 models mentioned are single action and designed to be carried with a round chambered, hammer cocked, safety on. Barettas and similar can be decocked. There are also true double action only 1911s available. Regardless, practicing and becoming very familiar with the weapon is paramount. If you are just looking to punch paper, I agree that a .22 is loads of fun and much more inexpensive to shoot on a regular basis.
Rogers72 Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 The Model 19 is my favorite Glock. I am not personally crazy about Glocks for many of the reasons mentioned already but they are THE best pistol made for the what they were designed to be. Easy to operate, reliable, durable, and relatively inexpensive. They are not as accurate as a custom 1911, not as attractive as a custom 1911, but MUCH cheaper and MUCH more geared to the utilitarian who wants a pistol that he or she can reach under the bed, grab, and shoot in the middle of the night in half-slumber. My wife may shoot once a year but I have given her a Glock b/c she can grab it without having to worry about any cocking, safety, etc. and release a large amout of firepower downrange in a short time. That said, for the handgun enthusiast, they are not very appealing. Ugly, mushy triggers, not extremely accurate out of the box, etc. Still a good gun to keep in your truck so you don't have to worry about your $3,000 Les Baer getting stolen.
mkz Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 A fine buy if you ask me. Have tried the Glock 19 quite a few times over the years in the swedish home guard. Easy to use and very reliable if you ask me. Now where did I put my G3??
armedak Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 I've owned several Glocks and the 19 is a good reliable weapon. However, I would go with a .40 or .45acp caliber for the better knockdown power. The glock 30 is roughly the same size and you still get 10 rounds of .45acp. My .02!
jacksfull Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 I'm not a fan of double-action autos, especially those with no exposed hammer From a safety standpoint, I think single-action autos are the best bet over DA auto or revolver. Like many others here, I favor the 1911, in its various form factors. For the range I have a full sized Colt Gov't Model O, and for carry a Kimber Ultra CDP. For me, it's hard to beat the 1911 in .45 ACP for its combinnation of stopping power, balance, safety, ease of maintenance, availability of parts & upgrades, and variety of styles & manufacturers. For the price of the Glock, you can get a nicely made 1911 from Rock Island and a few other makers, or pony up a little more and go for a Kimber, Springfield or S&W version. If you want hi-cap, Para Ordnance makes a nice line based on the 1911 with double-stack mags (as well as some reasonably priced single-stack 1911's).
Mel Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 I have a Glock 19 9mm that travels with me and it is a service weapon not a show piece. I asked an Ex-Navy Seal and local gun instructor the same question you pose and the GL 19 was recomended. He said it was demonstrated to them in the service and that was his choice because of reliablity. The rep. showing th gun buried in the sand on the ocean high tide and when they came back the next morning he dug it up, pulled back the slide and emptied the magazine. Without rinsing it off ne jambed another in and did the same. He then dropped the unloaded gun off a three story building and did the same. This gun goes bang every time you pull the trigger, unless you run out of bullets.LOL Ugliest gun that ever was but ready to go any time. 9mm is light but I dare a guy to stand for two in the chest. I have a beautiful Kimber Eclipse II NRA limited edition but it is expensive, large and heavy for carry. 454 Casull is a monster and the 223 Rem G2 Contender for long range hunting. Got plenty of rifles and shotguns to boot.
Guest rob Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 I have: * Savage .223 Tactical rifle * Bruno .22 Rimfire * Mauser .3007 * Berreta 12 guage shotgun used to also have: * H&K USP 9mm Pistol
Van55 Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 Having held and fired a variety of Glock pistols, I simply do not like the way they feel in my hand. After a direct comparison, I opted for a Springfield Arms XD40 compact. I like the grip safety in addition to the trigger "safety". I also liked the feel in my hand and what seemed like better quality.
Sandman Posted June 14, 2010 Posted June 14, 2010 I am not that into handguns, but i do own quite a few that i inherited from my dad when he passed away. I will say that the Glock 19 is my favorite out of all of them A great gun, that is easy to hold, reliable, and compact.
ksblazer Posted June 15, 2010 Posted June 15, 2010 I have a glock Mod 23 basically it's the glock Mod 19 but chambered in .40 S&W. I don't fire good groups with it. But I know it can. I was at the range one day and a guy with a glock Mod 17 9mm shows up. He was shooting nice tight groups at 10yds. I started some small glock talk with him and we each swapped guns. I wasn't anymore accurate with the 9mm but he had a nice group with my pistol. After that he handed it back to me and said it's a good accurate gun. I guess I need to take it out to the range more and figure the trigger out. But I doubt I will. I prefer to shoot my 1911's and HK USP's more. I've also fired the Springfield XD 45 and really liked it. It kind of has the best of both worlds. Glock reliability, price, lightweight and 1911 style grip and pointability. I also liked the trigger on it much better than my glock, but it's not as nice as a 1911 trigger. My favorite carry gun is a Colt .45 Defender. http://www.coltsmfg.com/products-c5-q51-COLT_PISTOLS.aspx
badaboom Posted June 15, 2010 Posted June 15, 2010 Shoot a few diff before buying, Many ranges let you rent. Good suggestion on the Beretta 92. Also, try a CZ P01: http://cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-p01/
cellinisart Posted June 15, 2010 Posted June 15, 2010 As someone in the field of ballistics testing, terminal ballistics and class 3 firearms I have shot thousands of rounds with glocks. For price with the 9mm platform the 19 is a good choice. A properly customized 5" steel-frame single-stack 1911 in .45 ACP is a superb, unparalleled choice for the dedicated user willing to spend a significant amount of money to get it properly initially set-up and considerable time to maintain it. For folks who want a .45 ACP pistol, but don't want to invest the funds and effort into getting a good 1911, they would be better served with the S&W M&P45 or HK45 . Do not bother with the 9mm vs 45 debate there is not a significant difference between the two rounds (terminal effect) and the 9mm is easier to control. What is this topic doing here
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