whaling industry whistle blowers

[skindiver]

stan, could not agree more. one of the saddest sights i've ever seen was a crowd gathered around something on fraser. when i checked it out, it was a 15 foot shark which had washed up. it was missing its dorsal. had just been sliced off and the thing tossed back in to the sea to die slowly - i'd feed anyone who did that to the sharks without any qualms. horrendous butchery.

as a judge in this year's wine list of the year awards, i tried very hard to have the chairman rule as ineligible any restauant which had shark fin on its menu. sadly, to no avail.

Kudos to you, my friend. At least you tried. As a recreational scuba diver for over 30 years, I learned alot about our world's oceans and the creatures that inhabit them. Most of them non-threatening to humans, but humans continue to threaten the oceans and the creatures that inhabit them.

As a socialist, I'd think you could fix this!

[El Presidente]

As a socialist, I'd think you could fix this!

Right after he get's his parking validated

[skindiver]

Right after he get's his parking validated

I am truly laughing my ass off, not LMAO!

[mazolaman]

stan, could not agree more. one of the saddest sights i've ever seen was a crowd gathered around something on fraser. when i checked it out, it was a 15 foot shark which had washed up. it was missing its dorsal. had just been sliced off and the thing tossed back in to the sea to die slowly - i'd feed anyone who did that to the sharks without any qualms. horrendous butchery.

as a judge in this year's wine list of the year awards, i tried very hard to have the chairman rule as ineligible any restauant which had shark fin on its menu. sadly, to no avail.

As i stated on the previous thread,180 MILLION sharks were killed last year,in this manner.For soup.

More people are killed worldwide by toasters than sharks.(statistically speaking).

[El Presidente]

More people are killed worldwide by toasters than sharks.(statistically speaking).

I will never look at my toaster the same way again

I have to say that killing sharks for a fin is repulsive. However removing nets from our beaches is equally so. One man, woman or child equals any number of sharks.

Just my opinion. And yes...it is their environment. We are just borrowing a bit.

[skindiver]

As i stated on the previous thread,180 MILLION sharks were killed last year,in this manner.For soup.

More people are killed worldwide by toasters than sharks.(statistically speaking).

Yes, simply amazing to me how this one fish can be so demonized and systematically slaughtered.

Diving among them, I can tell you they are non-threatening amazing creatures.

[skindiver]

I will never look at my toaster the same way again

I have to say that killing sharks for a fin is repulsive. However removing nets from our beaches is equally so. One man, woman or child equals any number of sharks.

Just my opinion. And yes...it is their environment. We are just borrowing a bit.

I would agree, Rob. Keep the nets there. An average of 18 attacks worldwide might justify nets, but not random slaughter of sharks. It is their environment, and humans are not on their menu actually.

[El Presidente]

Yes, simply amazing to me how this one fish can be so demonized and systematically slaughtered.

Diving among them, I can tell you they are non-threatening amazing creatures.

Stan...I am sure they are nice fish in the main. However there are a dozen or so people in this country (annually) with chunks out of them, who may (or may not) disagree (if they can).

Had a bad experience with a shark when I was twelve off Stradbroke Island. I have been tainted for life. Take whatever I say with a grain of salt.

[Ken Gargett]

I will never look at my toaster the same way again

I have to say that killing sharks for a fin is repulsive. However removing nets from our beaches is equally so. One man, woman or child equals any number of sharks.

Just my opinion. And yes...it is their environment. We are just borrowing a bit.

they do scare the crap out of me but the netting argument has some merit, although something like 30 or 40% of the sharks caught in the nets have come in from the beach side, making you wonder how useful they are. had a few nasty experiences as well and i am simply not going to dive, swim, stick toe in near them, no matter what anyone says.

but they catch some seriously large sharks in those nets. that mate was giving the figures and sizes - when you pull several five metre tiger sharks out of the water from the nets just off the beach at noosa, it is a good argument to have them.

what i hate is the by-catch. to see turtles, small whales occasionally, dolphins and the like caught is horrible. i know everyone thinks that dolphins are too intelligent to get caught but my mate was telling me about one dolphin (they have named it malcolm or something) off moreton. it has distinctive markings so they know it. last count, a year or so ago, they had released it from baited shark hooks about 37 times. it never learns.

[El Presidente]

they do scare the crap out of me but the netting argument has some merit, although something like 30 or 40% of the sharks caught in the nets have come in from the beach side, making you wonder how useful they are. had a few nasty experiences as well and i am simply not going to dive, swim, stick toe in near them, no matter what anyone says.

but they catch some seriously large sharks in those nets. that mate was giving the figures and sizes - when you pull several five metre tiger sharks out of the water from the nets just off the beach at noosa, it is a good argument to have them.

what i hate is the by-catch. to see turtles, small whales occasionally, dolphins and the like caught is horrible. i know everyone thinks that dolphins are too intelligent to get caught but my mate was telling me about one dolphin (they have named it malcolm or something) off moreton. it has distinctive markings so they know it. last count, a year or so ago, they had released it from baited shark hooks about 37 times. it never learns.

1. That dolphin has serious mental issues.

2. Noosa heads, the sharks come around from the point. I am glad the nets are there having fished those rocks (boiling pot) and seen what look like nuclear subs come swimming by.

3. They need more funding to clear the by catch daily.

4. Have you tried turtle?

[mazolaman]

that's a fair point,many sea habitats are ruined as a consequence of some other activity.

ie,dredging for scallop ruining the sea bed...dolphin in tuna nets...

this whole topic,for me,is encapsulated by our inability to regulate our catch.

The canadian cod areas were wiped out(now returning after 20 years),much of the Icelandic areas were wiped out(now returning),

Bluefin tuna is almost gone(with the last being caught and frozen,so when it is extinct,they are more valuable.Horrific greed)

Many species of turtle,and the sea cow in south america......etc,etc.

[Ken Gargett]

1. That dolphin has serious mental issues.

agreed.

2. Noosa heads, the sharks come around from the point. I am glad the nets are there having fished those rocks (boiling pot) and seen what look like nuclear subs come swimming by.

absolutely. and every now and again, one would hit the line and that would be that. only place i've seen bigger is off waddy and indian on fraser. a few looked like semi-submerged battleships.

3. They need more funding to clear the by catch daily.

agreed. no idea how often they do it but will check.

4. Have you tried turtle?

don't start.

[El Presidente]

4. Have you tried turtle?

don't start.

Tastes very much like Dugon/Sea Cow

[Ken Gargett]

Tastes very much like Dugon/Sea Cow

idiot. not to mention an appalling speller.

[Habanos2000]

Tastes very much like Dugon/Sea Cow

You're in fine form on this topic Rob!