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Hi there, I was hoping I could get some insight into "normal" or "common" values for Rh fluctuations per hour in an electric humidor. I see swings of 4rh twice per hour and wonder if this is normal. This is measured directly in the electric humidor and not inside a box of cigars. Thanks for any insights!

Thanks all. I think having govee spoiled it a bit for me. For 25 years I had cigars in a simple humidor, from Germany, to Singapore, from Hong Kong to Melbourne and all was good. Now, I am stressed all the time about the cigars 😕

Thanks very much for taking the time to reply. I really appreciate the spirit of your support. Unfortunately, the questions are somewhat related, similar not the same and unfortunately no answer to the question. I still see positive correlation between the and temperature (rather than negative) and have no explanation. Now, I see very high Rh fluctuations despite the humidor being inside a fridge and sealed along the lid completely with like 6 boveda packs. Not sure if you are able to help?

Hi all, just curious if this fluctuation is too much. Thanks, Egg

I was wondering if people with experience could opine: I have some (slightly?) dry Partagas P2s. They are coming on 6 years and I was wondering if it is normal for this cigar to look slightly mottled? Perhaps it is the dryness; if so, would the appearance change with more humidity? Thanks all!

Thanks for that. I did try and anticipate this comment by stating "not a long time frame but it is pretty much the same over weeks".

Precisely why the strong positive correlation (continuously, across temps and magnitudes) is so confusing.

Hi there, Quick one: fed up with the RH topic myself but why is my RH with boveda packs always highly positively correlated with temperature? - boveda not quick to react to humidity changes? - boveda very unstable with temperature? - cigars moisture evaporates more quickly at increasing temps than boveda can absorb? - I am a bit stumped. Attaching a pic that's typical (not a long time frame but it is pretty much the same over weeks). The temp change is not typical but it happened so I thought I use it as an example. Thanks for any insights! .

Thanks! That's what I experience at the moment. I hope I can bring them back to life.

I do agree that they smell sweeter; but mine are quite dry and shrunk visibly (not a lot but enough to be able to discern a change) and the smell is on the verge of "sick" smell (not like the sick period, I think). I'll try and re-surrect them; they don't seem dead but I think they took some damage. I am slowly getting them to 63rh at 68F. I seem to remember that smells are stronger in low humidity but that's about the ambient humidity, not the humidity of the cigar.

Hi there, Quick one: does a dry cigar lose its characteristic smell or even "turn"? I feel that they become very "smelly" but I am not experienced enough to know if this is normal or if there is anything wrong with my cigars beyond them being dried out. Thanks for any options and insights!

Don't know how to thank you! Such generosity with time and knowledge! Seriously, thanks a lot!

Thanks mate, exactly what I was after thanks a lot. I did search and sometimes it's not clear what words to use "packaging codes"! Thank you! Interesting, that means there is no production/boxing date as part of this coding?

Hi there, Typed the code into the habanos page and got this: PARTAGAS SERIE P No.2 SBN-UW-C/L-12,13-n-25 product is correct but not sure about the meaning of SBN-UW-C/L-12,13-n-25? thanks all!

I know this is a 12 year old post but I'll just say it: this reasoning, not by you but in general, is simply not a useful rgument. This is populist, unhelpful and subjective. And only people without a Ferrari argue this way. People who know cars well AND own a Ferrari know better.

And the generalisation is what I am after! In abs hum %.

Suppose I am smart enough to understand the relationship between the, temp and moisture content. What is the ideal moisture content of a cigar? Absolute, not relative, cigar, not ambient rh of a humidor?

Just posted in question section but might be more appropriate here: Thanks for all your patience, first and foremost. Why can't I see AUD prices in yesterday's 24:24 (2 August 2024)?

Happy to be your guide if you come to Victoria, NSW or Tasmania. 🙂 I fish only freshwater rivers and lakes.

Did this experiment ever get concluded? It is very intereti g to follow!

yes, sorry, I should have made that clear. I am after knowledge. I am trying to understand why on earth I would have a wooden humidor without Boveda these days; it feels like the idea of a sponge plus timber being able to regulate RH sufficiently (this word is debatable) seems like one of those memes that people fell for for like 200 years now. Many years ago, this might have been the best solution. Now I am trying to understand the mechanism that makes cedar better than other timbers for RH regulation (not interested in all the other mythological properties of cedar).

Hi All, Can someone give me a rundown on the humidor science please (talking classic wooden humidor without boveda but with sponge)? I am particularly interested in humidity not flavour. Here is what confuses me: - Sponge releases water into the air - high temperature means more evaporation so there is not much stability to be found here. If I keep the temp static, I at least know the rate of evaporation. Is that right? - Cedar (or whatever wood) supposedly regulates the humidity. But what humidity level is that? Does cedar have a particular property that makes the humidity a particular *desirable* range (and what is the range?). - Once cedar is saturated, wouldn't the sponge evaporation increase the humidity way beyond what is desired? So, if I keep refilling the humidification device, wouldn't there be a point when the humidity has to be too high unless I wait exactly until the sponge is dry and the cedar has lost enough moisture? - If I am in a very humid climate, seasoning the humidor would prevent it from absorbing the excess moisture in the air? - How important is the thickness of the cedar veneer wrt the above? I guess I would love to know what the scientific properties (absorbtion speed, absorbtion%, etc) of cedar are that would make this work (in my experience it works poorly and only within 65 to 75% which might be good enough). Am I the actual humidity regulator if I don't use Boveda's services? Thanks, Egg

Hi all, a perhaps silly question (another one some might say) but I usually dry box (overnight only) and have had a bad experience today with my usual cigar (robusto size) needing to be re-lit multiple times until I gave up early in the 3rd third - lots of smoke and seemed too wet in the middle to the end. Here is what was different this time: - I used an old Upman box that does not have any cedar lining or sheets in it (I presume it's just a cardboard box?) - when I checked the humidity in the environment it is very high today and yesterday around 79%. Question: Do I need something in the box to draw out the excess moisture like dry cedar or such and does all this still work if it is so stinking humid here in Sydney? Thanks for your patience!

I hope my fuente King T sungrown will improve - the cigars don't feel ready yet, at all! (but I am not very experienced - these are very strong for me anyway)

thanks, I agree and appreciate the insight. My favourite (I am a mild cigar smoker) is the grand cru robusto. My last order of 6 or 7 4 packs (can't quite remember) resulted in a mix of very new smelling cigars (amonia smell) and some very mild smelling ones. I suspect they were different production years. I agree that most non cubans are ready for smoking but not quite all. When I smoked a Fuente King T sungrown after ca 4 weeks, it was absolutely awful. I am not sure, but hope, that these improve over the next 3 years ...