Mel

I can not help by telling why the Prez is right about the two sizes but I attest that he is correct. I heard the word boring above and agree with that assesment of both cigars. I love the Principe and had a LaPunta that knocked my socks off a few weeks back.

"Taste Quality" oh do explain please.LOL Where on the tongue are the recepticles for that?? Sour, salt, bitter, sweet, spicy, earthy ect. I do understand these but WTF does quality taste like???LOL The original question was about money or cost and quality is many times independant of the first. Come on lets play.

#1 Mistake thinking EL meant better cigars. #2 Assuming one good box of cigars will be follewed by an equal one on the next purchase of the same marca and vitola. Cost does not equal quality and each cigar is an individual. One box may have duds and stellars and not all boxes are the same. I now cut and examine all cigars before leaving the house. How many times have I been disgusted by a tight or otherwise poor cigar.

Expensive cigars are just that. Cost is no indicator of quality or flavor. I bought and smoked a $100 45y/o Don Candido and did it just to experience it and do a tasting with some friends. I liked it and do not regret doing it once but I do not need to again. I have had six dollar smokes that I enjoyed more. Last night I smoked a Taboada Super Rodolpho a Santos Cananazo and a Mons Robusto Extra Lijero. I am not proud of the cost of those cigars but a fellow that offered to give me a Behike cancelled us out so I thought I'll be damned if I don't have some great cigars tonight. I took those sticks and went dove hunting with a buddy and had a great time smoking and shooting. Oh more to the question, the answer is NO you can not taste money in a cigar.

I have a plactic cheap case that holds four, several leather ones that hold four to ten and a larger caddy that will hold thirtry or more if you take out some of the foam inserts. I make sure I come home with unsmoked cigars, heaven forbid running out of smokes.

I am not a Sancho Panzo fan but to call a cigar a "Non Plus"??????????? The name clearly anounces that it is a crappy cigar. Is that not the worst name for a cigar ever?

I prefer Cuban cigars but will smoke a NC as the mood hits. My marca of dissapointment in Punch. Only the SS#2 has anything for me and they canned it.

Let me sell you three more boxes and see if you come across any good ones. I pull out a Genio when time for a cigar could be cut short and if I have to discard it early I fee lI have only lost money not a good smoke.

September is here so how do they smoke?

PSP2 never had one better than boring. I could fall asleep during one of these. Cohiba Genios what a joke(not funny). Poor for yard gars even.

Shorts win by the smallest of margins. Or flip a coin and there will be no mistake.LOL

Carp is a trash fish here as well. Strange to think one would think very highly of one. Some guys shoot them with bows during the spring spawn and I think it is the only fish allowed to be shot.LOL

The Hoyo that Rob are referring to are the 04 EL and when they came out he was high as hell on them urging me to not buy two boxes but SEVEN! HaHa. I bought two and think they are ok but not in the bottom three. I have not gone for all the EL and Regional crap so I have not smoked alot of what has been cursed on but I bet if I had I would agree. The Cohiba Maduro line is a total mistake. I mean hell how are you going to better a CoRo or Espy?????? The Partagas P2 do NOT taste like any Partagas and I wanted to love them like another poster mentioned but alas more helpings of **** does not improve the taste of ****. R&J Short Belicoso. Thank God I only have one left. Talk about a yard gar that taste like nothing. Ball-less waste of lighter fluid.

#2 has the best length to girth ratio and fewer construction problems than the other two. I have not found then blend very different between the three so it is more a size issue.

Coronas and Petit Coronas are the benchmark vitolas and RG of 42 is optimal. Boli,Monte #4 and PLPC are my favorites.

Given some of the stories I heard lately about changing bands on cigar after they were rolled I don't care if the skip the box and the bands. I do not like the small box idea. I would buy ten or twelve singles if that is what I wanted other wise 25 is the minimum. I pitched a fit when they were sending customs out in bundles of 20. I just felt I was not getting enough gars.

I have a 09 db that are great. Solid cigars for sure.

There is no typical "morning" cigar. It still depends on time, mood and activity. One of the best cigars of the morning has been while turkey hunting and a BGM comes to the front of my mind. A nice Sig III has the right size to be the perfect cigar to start the day if time allows. More often than not time is a factor and a smaller cigar is needed.

Next: Marylin Monroe will be ***-less. Jesus will be clean shaven and with a flattop Budda will be skinny Allah will be dating the Virgin Mary Limitless changes...........

Wow this is a well loved mate. Where are his supporters on this forum surely there is one???

I had a dream last nigjht that I came down to smoke with you and you left town when you heard I was coming. Did either of those cigars you listed above have any guts? I find the Lusi to be mild and Punch rarely does it for me. I find the RAG and the HdM to be more flavourful and the VDRA boring as another poster described. In general I believe the Churchills and up are rolled mild on purpose so most can handle the power build up on the long cigars. Is there any truth to this?

I have a Glock 19 9mm that travels with me and it is a service weapon not a show piece. I asked an Ex-Navy Seal and local gun instructor the same question you pose and the GL 19 was recomended. He said it was demonstrated to them in the service and that was his choice because of reliablity. The rep. showing th gun buried in the sand on the ocean high tide and when they came back the next morning he dug it up, pulled back the slide and emptied the magazine. Without rinsing it off ne jambed another in and did the same. He then dropped the unloaded gun off a three story building and did the same. This gun goes bang every time you pull the trigger, unless you run out of bullets.LOL Ugliest gun that ever was but ready to go any time. 9mm is light but I dare a guy to stand for two in the chest. I have a beautiful Kimber Eclipse II NRA limited edition but it is expensive, large and heavy for carry. 454 Casull is a monster and the 223 Rem G2 Contender for long range hunting. Got plenty of rifles and shotguns to boot.

Leave people alone. Period. I hate governments or groups that feel like they have to dictate to others what to do.

Is it true what Sloth says in post #53 that ya'll don't get paid???????? You get free cigars right? Special rates? Congradulations I think??LOL

I think a cigar taste better when it's on fire. These tight cigars do not burn well and so flavor is always off. Oxidation is the name of the game and I hate a snug cigar. I am like the bloke that Rob was talking about that prefers the more open cigar and have been told by a few mates that I am very critical on the matter. So be it. Another benefit if a well made cigar is that your lighter fluid lasts a lot longer.