JohnS Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The Diplomaticos No.4 was a Marevas cigar identical in specification to the Montecristo No.4, at 42 ring gauge by 129mm. I say "was" because, like all great offerings from Habanos S.A. that don't sell in great quantities, this was discontinued in 2010. (Unlike its bigger and older cousin, the well-known Montecristo No.4.) It's a great shame really, as this cigar, if it was around deserves to be in your rotation, at least as a 'change-of-pace'. I was fortunate enough to receive this from a much admired and fellow Sydney FoH member, Kam a few months ago (thank you so much), and I was able to smoke this a little after the New Year. When I did so, I marvelled at how multi-flavoured this was after 7 years of age. I guess I was taken aback by smoking so many Montecristo No.4's in comparison, which when they are good, are very, very satisfying but I've never had a Marevas cigar this complex through the thirds. The cold draw was a little tight, and when I lit up I had to work a bit to draw the amount of smoke I wanted. However, the first third was full of cinnamon and nutmeg goodness. As the cigar evolved, the roasted nuttiness took over and the cinnamon spice took a back seat, with the cigar changing from mild to mild-medium in strength. The final third saw some of that cinnamon/nutmeg spice return and the strength and intensity of the nuttiness eased off a little. My initial thoughts upon smoking this was that if it were around I would definitely have it in my humidor to enjoy on occasion. When I next saw him, I reassured Kam to savour what he has left from his box. Alas folks, the No.4 is gone, but at least we have the No.2, for now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangler Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Great review Man! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westg Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Nice John... I am going to fir one up tonight ...its been a while 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optic101 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Nice one John ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eswary Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Excellent review, I absolutely love this cigar thru and thru. I am still smoking on some 2006's. The nutmeg, sharp cinnamon aspect is spot on, and for me it's the creamy nuttiness that is dreamy. If there was someone I could write a letter to, begging to put these back into production I would. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Thanks everyone. If you have this marca in your rotation, savour it I say! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonk Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Very nice review, mate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Your right John. The Diplomaticos No.2 is a wonderful cigar, and I think the only Diplomaticos in production. Nutmeg, cinnamon, mildly aromatic and a wonderfully bold last third. EML 2014 have been delightful and have just brought in another box of them. Piramides has very quickly become one of my get in stock choices. With the Dip 2, Vegas Robaina Unicos, and Monte 2 I have a nice stash of them. I've never tried the Partigas P2 and Upmann No2 - any ideas on comparison with the aforementioned Piramides? While Dip 2 is considered a cheaper alternative to the Monte 2 if I had a choice I would go to the Dip 2 first. Just want to conserve my supply's Randy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 The Montecristo No.2 can be inconsistent due to high production, whereas the Diplomatico No.2 is produced in lesser numbers. Still, even within those EML Dip 2's this past year El Pres has seen variation. I'm grateful for the Diplomaticos that are put up on 24:24. I've not sampled the Partagas P2 (yet), but I certainly have sampled the H.Upmann No.2, of which the LUB 14 variety have been smoking great. The Upmann No.2 is a very popular piramide which benefits from aging. It used to be you needed 5 years for them to flourish, the smoking better younger now. Below are some text reviews on our forum... http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=124652 http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=113931 http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=110823 http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=110158 http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=109590 Also, below are links to video reviews from Ken and Rob on the H.Upmann No.2... http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=122736 http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=115218 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonameno Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Hi John, Wonderful review, thank you! I still have some of these gems left in my coolidor. I just love this little flavorful cigar, and was deeply dis appointed when they were discontinued. Thank you for sharing,Curtiss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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