wrapper colour

[Ken Gargett]

anyone any strong thoughts here?

i'm looking at half a dozen cuaba salamones. two came from rob at different times and the last four from spain, just recently. those four have some of the palest wrappers i have ever seen ~ brown-lite.

the ones from rob, one (i think that i picked up recently) is a little darker than the spanish set but not by much. the other, from a few years ago, is as dark as any cigar i have, along with some of limited editions. has anyone seen anything similar with these or any other cigars? it isn't a small difference, it is as big a variation as is possible.

[habanohal]

» anyone any strong thoughts here?

» i'm looking at half a dozen cuaba salamones. two came from rob at

» different times and the last four from spain, just recently. those four

» have some of the palest wrappers i have ever seen ~ brown-lite.

» the ones from rob, one (i think that i picked up recently) is a little

» darker than the spanish set but not by much. the other, from a few years

» ago, is as dark as any cigar i have, along with some of limited editions.

» has anyone seen anything similar with these or any other cigars? it isn't

» a small difference, it is as big a variation as is possible.

From what I have read before is that , with Cuban cigars, the wrapper only makes up for %3 or so of the flavor.

[CIGARHead]

» anyone any strong thoughts here?

» i'm looking at half a dozen cuaba salamones. two came from rob at

» different times and the last four from spain, just recently. those four

» have some of the palest wrappers i have ever seen ~ brown-lite.

» the ones from rob, one (i think that i picked up recently) is a little

» darker than the spanish set but not by much. the other, from a few years

» ago, is as dark as any cigar i have, along with some of limited editions.

» has anyone seen anything similar with these or any other cigars? it isn't

» a small difference, it is as big a variation as is possible.

Ken. Dont have any Cuaba Salamones, but I have 3 boxes of Partagas Serie P 2. The wrappers vary greatly like you talk about. One box is so pale, to call them brown should be a crime. Another is 3 to 4 shades darker. The last box is dark as an EL. I smoked one the other day from the lightest wrappers and it was excellent. Very fine, silky wrapper. Funny how much variation there can be from box to box.

[harwellplant]

i don't keep enough cuabas on hand to notice any variation in them, but i have noticed a BIG shift among boxes of bbf in the past 2 years. i still have some ranging from a light milky sheen to the other end of the spectrum. i even have one box that almost looks tiger striped, with the striations on the wrapper.

[Curmudgeon]

I like thin, pliable wrappers, which burn well. There is so much variation in flavor between boxes of the same cigar and so little variation in wrapper color within a box, that I don't claim to know how wrapper color affects flavor. I don't understand how others can claim to know, unless they've done difficult to implement truly scientific comparisons.

[1f1fan]

Yes, there are many, many different wrapper shades. They differ from box to box but color should be consistent within a box.

It is very difficult to put the effect a wrapper has in terms of flavor as a percentage. Is it 3%, 25%....50% That is up to much debate and each individual smoker.

I do know that I've had some cigars that tunnel (everything but the wrapper burns) and the flavor was effected dramatically I would venture to guess, based on just my experience, that it's more than 3%.

For the most part I'm not a fan of the dark and oily wrappers. A nice colorado or colorado claro wrapper work for me (Especially on Bolivars)

Your mileage may vary :-D

[El Presidente]

From experience, Cohiba & Trinidad has the most consistent wrapper of all. The rest is an absolute crapshoot.

For me, Colorado/Colorado claro with a vaseline sheen is the ultimate. Mix in a reddish hue to the wrapper and you pick that box and run home as fast as you can.

There is no better wrapper than the one described..... in my humble opinion.

[CIGARHead]

» For me, Colorado/Colorado claro with a vaseline sheen is the ultimate.

Umm..I wont even go there.

[Loki]

Ken, I have 2 boxes of Cuaba Salamones, june 04 , jan. 04. One box is colorado, the other much darker, atleast 3-4 shades and much toothier. IMO the darker are better.

[strayvector]

I too have had the same experience with the PSP2s. The ones from boxes of 25's were light brown in color and those from the boxes of 10 were very dark in color, similar shade as the ELs. Both have been fantastic.

[dragon]

<<< From experience, Cohiba & Trinidad has the most consistent wrapper of all. The rest is an absolute crapshoot. >>>

I agree with that, although lately I've opened some of the Siglo VI tubos I got from El Prez, and most have the usual light colored wrappers while a few others have rather dark wrappers. I haven't tried any yet to give a report, but I'm sure they're all good :-)

[El Presidente]

Dragon

I will talk to our factory in FIJI. This is a quality control issue and I will talk to Rambuka and the lads :cool:

[joerose]

Wrappers, especially with sallys....so much of it is how it appeals to your eye. I personally prefer dark but have had tremendously nuanced smokes with paperbag colored wrappers. I also love when they are reddish/rosado---oily yes but no vaseline on my cigar thank youvery much.

[harwellplant]

i agree with the question depending on what the eye prefers. still, there are some particular cigars that are, unfortunately, like a guessing game when you open the box.

[GoatLocker]

» Ken, I have 2 boxes of Cuaba Salamones, june 04 , jan. 04. One box is

» colorado, the other much darker, atleast 3-4 shades and much toothier. IMO

» the darker are better.

I have a box like that also, damn near sandpaper!

Usually, i prefer lighter wrappers, but I think it's also good if a wrapper is thin. It seems the lighter wrappers are usually the thinner ones.

[simmich]

» I like thin, pliable wrappers, which burn well. There is so much variation

» in flavor between boxes of the same cigar and so little variation in

» wrapper color within a box, that I don't claim to know how wrapper color

» affects flavor. I don't understand how others can claim to know, unless

» they've done difficult to implement truly scientific comparisons.

Curmudgeon...get some Fuente 858's. They're available in natural,maduro, candela,sungrown, and rosado. The insides are identical...only the wrappers (capa) are different. You will taste five similar but very different cigars.