Fuente Opus X Robusto

[KB24]

Today while watching a good family friend make his first start for the Fighting Irish I decided to light up my first Opus X in his honor (if only he had an offensive line).

Anyways, I was very impressed with the Opus. Very strong at first but mellowed into a very enjoyable and smooth smoke. I had to relight a few times but besides that perfect burn, draw, and construction. Anyone have any thoughts on Opus X besides they are way over-priced?

-Patrick

[Jimmy2]

I happy you enjoyed your Opus but i find most of them one dimensional and i tied to like them with the hype and all.

The only one i really like is the #5 i find them very tasty but as always there hard to find.

[yossie]

» Today while watching a good family friend make his first start for the

» Fighting Irish I decided to light up my first Opus X in his honor (if only

» he had an offensive line).

»

» Anyways, I was very impressed with the Opus. Very strong at first but

» mellowed into a very enjoyable and smooth smoke. I had to relight a few

» times but besides that perfect burn, draw, and construction. Anyone have

» any thoughts on Opus X besides they are way over-priced?

»

» -Patrick

I'm really interested in Opus X though, It is too tough to get it in here. Of course, I can import it from somewhere else.

Then, I wonder whether It's worth importing or not.

Do you think opus X better than havana's ?

[Jimmy2]

» » Today while watching a good family friend make his first start for the

» » Fighting Irish I decided to light up my first Opus X in his honor (if

» only

» » he had an offensive line).

» »

» » Anyways, I was very impressed with the Opus. Very strong at first but

» » mellowed into a very enjoyable and smooth smoke. I had to relight a

» few

» » times but besides that perfect burn, draw, and construction. Anyone

» have

» » any thoughts on Opus X besides they are way over-priced?

» »

» » -Patrick

»

» I'm really interested in Opus X though, It is too tough to get it in here.

» Of course, I can import it from somewhere else.

» Then, I wonder whether It's worth importing or not.

» Do you think opus X better than havana's ?

A BIG NO!!!:-D

[yossie]

» » » Today while watching a good family friend make his first start for the

» » » Fighting Irish I decided to light up my first Opus X in his honor (if

» » only

» » » he had an offensive line).

» » »

» » » Anyways, I was very impressed with the Opus. Very strong at first

» but

» » » mellowed into a very enjoyable and smooth smoke. I had to relight a

» » few

» » » times but besides that perfect burn, draw, and construction. Anyone

» » have

» » » any thoughts on Opus X besides they are way over-priced?

» » »

» » » -Patrick

» »

» » I'm really interested in Opus X though, It is too tough to get it in

» here.

» » Of course, I can import it from somewhere else.

» » Then, I wonder whether It's worth importing or not.

» » Do you think opus X better than havana's ?

»

» A BIG NO!!!:-D

Really? Nevertheless They're really expensive, not so good..

Now, I can understand why American wanna smoke havana's. :-D

[KB24]

Habanos are a lot better but an Opus every now and then is ok right Jimmy? It was a nice change of pace today!

[Jimmy2]

It's always good to mix it up once in a while as i said i like the #5.

[yossie]

I see.

Anyway, It's FOH website, We should talk about habanos and purchase cigars from lisa and make her richer!.

Rob? He may go bankrupt. :-P

[El Presidente]

» I see.

» Anyway, It's FOH website, We should talk about habanos and purchase cigars

» from lisa and make her richer!.

» Rob? He may go bankrupt. :-P

Talk about whatever you like be it Habanos or non Habanos...trust me it makes no difference to our financial fortunes

[yossie]

» » I see.

» » Anyway, It's FOH website, We should talk about habanos and purchase

» cigars

» » from lisa and make her richer!.

» » Rob? He may go bankrupt. :-P

»

» Talk about whatever you like be it Habanos or non Habanos...trust me it

» makes no difference to our financial fortunes

Hey rob.

I just wanted to say "rob goes bankrupt".

I'm sure that you work so much. But Customer service is done by lisa, So, It seems you don't work and smoke cigars for me:-P

[Colt45]

» Anyone have any thoughts on Opus X besides they are way over-priced?

»

I find them to be very bland. To me, one of the most over hyped products on the planet.

[GoSteelers]

If you want to spend that kind of money on a NC, try a Perdomo Edicion de Silvio. Beautiful cigar smooth and complex.

[Justinwzp]

» Do you think opus X better than havana's ?

Absolutely NOT. I have tried them all.....including several of the "ultra rare" bs that they make. They're over priced and they just can't compare to a good Cuban. I have a drawer full of them in my humidor still but I never smoke them. I have some in there that people have offered to buy from me for $100+ a stick....it's rediculous.

It's ALL hype. Trust me......I fell for it :crying:

[yossie]

» » Do you think opus X better than havana's ?

»

» Absolutely NOT. I have tried them all.....including several of the "ultra

» rare" bs that they make. They're over priced and they just can't compare

» to a good Cuban. I have a drawer full of them in my humidor still but I

» never smoke them. I have some in there that people have offered to buy

» from me for $100+ a stick....it's rediculous.

»

» It's ALL hype. Trust me......I fell for it :crying:

I see.

Since Rob permit us to talk about non habanos, I like non havana's cigars like camacho corojo and cuesta ray.

But There's a problem, Their price with shipping fee to here is not so far away from Havana's .

[sleeper]

» Do you think opus X better than havana's ?

Opus are very nice cigars when aged appropriately. There is no better or worse when comparing Opus to Havanas, just different IMO. When I am in the mood for an Opus, they are spot on and I enjoy them very much. There are many non-Cuban cigars that are very tatsy. It is an apples and oranges comparison. With that said, I generally prefer the twang of Cuban tobacco.

I have seen one person online frequently compare cigars from different countries to red wine from different countries. As he so eloquently put it, is Burgundy or Bordeaux always better than a California Cabernet or a great Aussie Shiraz? IMO, the answer is no and I think this applies to cigars from varuious countries as well.

Just my .02, of course!

[yossie]

You're right. I completely agree with what There're many good cigars without havana.

Even so, Opus X is too expensive, I've seen that in an American shop, I saw 80USD double corona of OPUS X and a box of 20 cigars is about 800USD.

Even if the taste is really great, I can not buy such cigars. Because My money is extremely limited :-D

On the other hand, Very cheap cigars I've smoked which is purchased with 1USD is terrible , no smell.

So, It's a dilemma whether I purcahse expensive but good taste cigars which are sold in US or not.

Anyway, If you know a good cigar vendor in US (of course , in cheap price:-P and they ship internationally ) , Can you tell me where via mail?

Thanks

[Jimmy2]

Opus are overrated period if they are aged or not and i have never tasted a complex Opus ever.

There are many non Cubans that are much much better dont buy the hype of Opus.

La Flor Dominicana Cameroon Cabinet No. 1

La Aurora 1495

La Aurora100 anos

Oliva V's

Padilla 1932

Tat's Red's

^^

Have and will always have better more balnaced flavors than an Opus.

The Fuente's are very smart as marketing goes i will have to tip my hat to them.

But i do like the #5.;-)

[yossie]

» La Flor Dominicana Cameroon Cabinet No. 1

» La Aurora 1495

» La Aurora100 anos

» Oliva V's

» Padilla 1932

» Tat's Red's

As far as I research them, They're somewhat expensive.

Yes, Cheaper than Opus X though. :crying:

[Mike33]

» Opus are overrated period if they are aged or not and i have never tasted a

» complex Opus ever.

That's your opinion, but not that of the majority of U.S. smokers. I personally don't think they are overrated, but are overpriced and over-hyped. As far as the complexity, I have only noticed it in ones that are several years old. These are much more enjoyable to my taste than fresh ones.

I do think there are several N/Cs out there that are better and more reasonable in price. My personal favorites are Padrons. To me, with my humidor being about 85% havanas, N/Cs are a change of pace. Not better or worse, just different flavor profiles.

[Colt45]

» That's your opinion, but not that of the majority of U.S. smokers.

»

I'd have to see the factual evidence in this regard - I'd like to know what percentage of all U.S.

cigar smokers actually enjoy these, and what percentage liken these to smoking rolled up newspaper.

[Mike33]

» » That's your opinion, but not that of the majority of U.S. smokers.

» »

» I'd have to see the factual evidence in this regard - I'd like to know

» what percentage of all U.S.

» cigar smokers actually enjoy these, and what percentage liken these to

» smoking rolled up newspaper.

I doubt you could do a study on this, but based on demand for Opus, I'd say it is a pretty safe statement. I can't think of any cigar BB discussion where more than a small minority of posters didn't like Opus. You have to remember that this board is for Habanos lovers, those that have "moved on from the marketing machine of non-cuban cigars!"

[bobsled]

There is a place for Opus, they are not bad cigars, they are actually quite tasty. I too find they are a little one dimensional from time to time, however they are better than most NC's, excepting maybe the Padron 1926.

I find they are a good chang eof pace, overpriced? YES but tasty nonetheless....

[Colt45]

» I doubt you could do a study on this, but based on demand for Opus, I'd

» say it is a pretty safe statement. I can't think of any cigar BB

» discussion where more than a small minority of posters didn't like Opus.

» You have to remember that this board is for Habanos lovers, those that

» have "moved on from the marketing machine of non-cuban cigars!"

Mike, for kicks, I'll try to argue my point a little further :-)

As to the demand for Opus, it is my opinion (and only that) that intentionally or not, there

is low supply, which coupled with smart marketing. keeps demand high.

RE cigar BBs, I do not know what percentage of cigar smokers participate, but in my mind

at least, I tend to think of them as sports radio, in that more than likely (again my opinion),

it is a relatively small percentage who actively take part.

You are correct, this is "Friends of Habanos"!! The honest truth is that I have nothing against Opus,

or any cigar from any producer anywhere in the world. The old cliché, smoke what you like,

like what you smoke, surely holds true.

And to Yossie, if you can acquire a few Opus, you should certainly give them a try, and decide for yourself.

[Mike33]

» » I doubt you could do a study on this, but based on demand for Opus, I'd

» » say it is a pretty safe statement. I can't think of any cigar BB

» » discussion where more than a small minority of posters didn't like Opus.

»

» » You have to remember that this board is for Habanos lovers, those that

» » have "moved on from the marketing machine of non-cuban cigars!"

»

» Mike, for kicks, I'll try to argue my point a little further :-)

»

» As to the demand for Opus, it is my opinion (and only that) that

» intentionally or not, there

» is low supply, which coupled with smart marketing. keeps demand high.

»

» RE cigar BBs, I do not know what percentage of cigar smokers participate,

» but in my mind

» at least, I tend to think of them as sports radio, in that more than

» likely (again my opinion),

» it is a relatively small percentage who actively take part.

»

» You are correct, this is "Friends of Habanos"!! The honest truth is that I

» have nothing against Opus,

» or any cigar from any producer anywhere in the world. The old cliché,

» smoke what you like,

» like what you smoke, surely holds true.

»

» And to Yossie, if you can acquire a few Opus, you should certainly give

» them a try, and decide for yourself.

I'll clarify some of my points as well :-D

I understand what you are talking about regarding the low supply and great marketing of Fuente. However, for a cigar to be on the market for 12 years and still be as high in demand as it is now, it must be well received among consumers. Once you take away the "grail" aspect of it and the consumer has tried it, obviously, they will buy it again if they like it. No matter how much marketing or low supply you have, it's gotta be a good product to the majority of consumers, as I think it is.

Now, when I mentioned cigar BBs, I was trying to illustrate a point and I don't think I did a good job in doing it. You are correct in stating that this is a small, yet vocal group! Generally speaking, though, these are serious cigar smokers with a LOT of experience and refined tastes. Often, these members are not swayed with cigar hype. That is why I think it is a good example of the popularity of the Opus due to a pretty large majority on these boards who like the cigars. The typical american consumer often thinks the cigars we normally refer to as "dog-rockets or yard-'gars" are good smokes. And when they taste an Opus, they are often blown away at how good they are. They don't know any better I guess is what I'm trying to say.

So, while I agree that low supply and marketing tend to hype the cigar more than it should be, it is pretty obvious that it is viewed as a good cigar, if not the best cigar in the U.S., by the majority of American smokers. At least that's how I view it in my head

[lbrooks]

» Today while watching a good family friend make his first start for the

» Fighting Irish I decided to light up my first Opus X in his honor (if only

» he had an offensive line).

»

» Anyways, I was very impressed with the Opus. Very strong at first but

» mellowed into a very enjoyable and smooth smoke. I had to relight a few

» times but besides that perfect burn, draw, and construction. Anyone have

» any thoughts on Opus X besides they are way over-priced?

»

» -Patrick

I had my 1st Opus X about 3 weeks ago at a special event. I thousht it was a very good cigar but, I would have to agree it is a bit expensive for what I got. I would smoke them agian and think it was a good change of pace.

Larry