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» HDM Hoyo Du Prince...

»

» Can someone give me some info on the '98s compared to the '03s...

»

» thank you kindly.

A great box of 98's surpasses a great box of 03's. There is a richness in the 98's which I don't think the 03's have yet reached. Many of the 98 Du Prince boxes were laden with bloom which is testament to their quality.

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» A great box of 98's surpasses a great box of 03's. There is a richness in

» the 98's which I don't think the 03's have yet reached. Many of the 98 Du

» Prince boxes were laden with bloom which is testament to their quality.

Rob, do you have any pictures of your '98s?

I'd love to see one with or without plume.

Cheers.

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» Many of the 98 Du Prince boxes were laden with bloom which is testament to their quality.

»

I have to admit that I am not a believer in plume / bloom being a sign of a better

cigar.

If, as many say, plume is the crystallization of the essential oils on the cigar's

surface, I'd rather have the oils remain in the cigar, as long as possible.

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» »

» I have to admit that I am not a believer in plume / bloom being a sign of

» a better

» cigar.

» If, as many say, plume is the crystallization of the essential oils on the

» cigar's

» surface, I'd rather have the oils remain in the cigar, as long as

» possible.

Interesting...I always thought that the plume/bloom was a very good sign and that the cigars were being aged properly. I understand your thinking, but doesn't plume/bloom also mean that the cigars will have wonderful flavor?

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» but doesn't plume/bloom also mean that the cigars will have wonderful

» flavor?

I guess it depends on what camp you're in. My own personal feeling is, how could

they taste better? Not that I think they'll necessarily taste worse either.

Again, I'd just as soon keep the oils in the cigar. Just my opinion.

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» » A great box of 98's surpasses a great box of 03's. There is a richness

» in

» » the 98's which I don't think the 03's have yet reached. Many of the 98

» Du

» » Prince boxes were laden with bloom which is testament to their quality.

»

» Rob, do you have any pictures of your '98s?

» I'd love to see one with or without plume.

» Cheers.

Pictures of my cab of '98 Hoyo du princes , some have fugly green age spots, but Mike says that they smoke nicely.:hungry:

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» Pictures of my cab of '98 Hoyo du princes , some have fugly green age

» spots, but Mike says that they smoke nicely.:hungry:

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Cheers. Those look quite nice. :hungry:

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Ross, my experience (completely non scientific) is that plume/ bloom can be onset through drastic changes in temp in coold down/heat up/cool down within a 24 hr period. However it only seems to occur in cigars with exceptional wrappers and it occurs in equally in young cigars as well as older cigars.

From a taste perspective, I have never , ever, ever had a bad cigar which was dusted in plume. :-)

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» Ross, my experience (completely non scientific) is that plume/ bloom can be

» onset through drastic changes in temp in coold down/heat up/cool down

» within a 24 hr period. However it only seems to occur in cigars with

» exceptional wrappers and it occurs in equally in young cigars as well as

» older cigars.

Right - but usually when I read people's thoughts on the topic, most seem to feel

it's a result of "optimum" conditions. That's where my opinion differs.

»

» From a taste perspective, I have never , ever, ever had a bad cigar which

» was dusted in plume. :-)

I don't doubt that - I just don't feel plume makes for a better cigar.

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Colt you ever think a cigar with no plume or bloom or very little does not have alot of oils to begin with?

But one with alot bloom or plume has a large amount of oils with in the cigar .

Posted

» Colt you ever think a cigar with no plume or bloom or very little does

» not have alot of oils to begin with?

»

» But one with alot bloom or plume has a large amount of oils with in the

» cigar .

Jimmy, entirely possible. But, I have many cigars that that show sheens of varying

degree, that never break out in plume. Some of these I've had for up to five years.

I also think that it has something to do with storage temperature - I think that cigars

kept at a consistently warmer temperature stand a better chance of blooming.

I have no facts to back this up - it's just a personal theory.

My cigars stay at a relatively cooler temp - up to mid 60s in the warmer months,

and high 50s in the coldest of winter.

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in regard to age spots, my Davidoffs have alot just below the cap, some smoke nicely but the ones with more prominent spots aren't quite as good, but are the same age.

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