new tendencies

[rafa]

Yesterday i went to bought a little box of 12 Trinidad Reyes (little gems) in Jesus LLanos estanco (tobacco shop) in Madrid. He was Hombre Habano in year 2003. I was talking with him for a few minutes and he told me that Habanos sa orientation for the next years will be smaller vitolas and smooth taste for the mass market.

Is this the beggining of the end of the most of big sizes ?

For our interest, i have found a conversation between best Madrid tobacco sellers:

"...In conversation with the Estanqueros we learn that lately most customers buy smaller vitolas, seems like people have less time on their hands to smoke the bigger ones, probably because of the new smoking laws.

It’s easier – and quicker - to smoke a Mareva than a Double Corona.

Also we discuss the topic of Habanos tasting all basically identical lately.

The specific brand taste is missing, they become inter-changeable, and nearly identical in taste.Someone mentions he witnessed himself in a Havana factory how the same Robustos had different bands for a Habanos Robusto sample box ………… only the wrappers were of different colour, the tobacco was the same on all of them.

Talking with the very friendly Don Eduardo Mencia, Altadis Director for Commercial Relations, we learn that there is a huge central warehouse in Logroño, capital of the Rioja in northern Spain, where Altadis does the quality control on all cigars and that all are frozen before delivery..."

[Colt45]

» Is this the beggining of the end of the most of big sizes ?

Interesting for sure. This, to a degree, is the opposite of what has been discussed

here over the past year. (discussions did tend to center on girth)

» Also we discuss the topic of Habanos tasting all basically identical

» lately.

» Someone mentions he witnessed himself in a Havana factory how the same

» Robustos had different bands for a Habanos Robusto sample box ………… only

» the wrappers were of different colour, the tobacco was the same on all of them.

I'd certainly like to know how true this is - I would hope it's not......

[jqmunro]

» » Is this the beggining of the end of the most of big sizes ?

»

» Interesting for sure. This, to a degree, is the opposite of what has been

» discussed

» here over the past year. (discussions did tend to center on girth)

»

» » Also we discuss the topic of Habanos tasting all basically identical

» » lately.

» » Someone mentions he witnessed himself in a Havana factory how the same

» » Robustos had different bands for a Habanos Robusto sample box …………

» only

» » the wrappers were of different colour, the tobacco was the same on all

» of them.

»

» I'd certainly like to know how true this is - I would hope it's not......

CA just published an article talking about how Habanos is going to start making more thin ring gauge cigars, including a maduro Cohiba.

[tigger]

Thinner would be fine with me. It's pretty rare that I smoke larger than a 46 ring anyway.

Interesting though, that there are quite a few relatively thin cigars on the chopping block right now...

[RSpro*]

» » »

»

» CA just published an article talking about how Habanos is going to start

» making more thin ring gauge cigars, including a maduro Cohiba.

I just read the same article. Talked alot about thin ring cigars. I say the more they make the better.

[atomross13]

Sounds good to me I prefer the smaller ring and smaller cigars.

[wp2]

» Talking with the very friendly Don Eduardo Mencia, Altadis Director for

» Commercial Relations, we learn that there is a huge central warehouse in

» Logroño, capital of the Rioja in northern Spain, where Altadis does the

» quality control on all cigars and that all are frozen before delivery..."

Hmmmmmmmmm, frozen??

[Trevor2118]

» Talking with the very friendly Don Eduardo Mencia, Altadis Director for Commercial Relations, we learn that there is a huge central warehouse in Logroño, capital of the Rioja in northern Spain, where Altadis does the quality control on all cigars and that all are frozen before delivery..."

I thought the global export stock was held (& frozen & quality checked) in the Habanos SA storage centre in Guanabacoa, a suburb of Havana, Cuba.

[univibe88]

» Thinner would be fine with me. It's pretty rare that I smoke larger than a

» 46 ring anyway.

»

» Interesting though, that there are quite a few relatively thin cigars on

» the chopping block right now...

Maybe they are giving the ax to some of the older, less popular thin cigars in order to make room for this new wave of thin cigars?

[El Presidente]

» » Talking with the very friendly Don Eduardo Mencia, Altadis Director for

» Commercial Relations, we learn that there is a huge central warehouse in

» Logroño, capital of the Rioja in northern Spain, where Altadis does the

» quality control on all cigars and that all are frozen before delivery..."

»

» I thought the global export stock was held (& frozen & quality checked) in

» the Habanos SA storage centre in Guanabacoa, a suburb of Havana,

» Cuba.

That is correct Trevor. However, distributors in diferent parts of the world have frozen stock to combat beetle infestation for a number of years. Habanos only started freezing stock (in Havana) in early 2005.