This week on Lounge Lizards: Interview w/ Klaas Kelner /Avowed New Dawn in Toro with ten years aged Glenmorangie . Norwegian Plain Packaging, Plating Food and Cigar Blending, Pickled Asparagus

[El Presidente]

The Lizards pair the Avowed New Dawn in Toro with ten years aged Glenmorangie The Original Single Malt Scotch Whisky. The guys share their interview with blender and manufacturer Klaas Kelner, recorded at PCA 2025, where they discuss how Klaas blends cigars for clients like Avowed and Stoic, his approach to complete palate coverage and his controversial feelings on the retrohale. PLUS: The Story of Avowed, Norwegian Plain Packaging, Parallels Between Plating Food and Cigar Blending, Voice Memo on Cigar/Family Balance & Giz on Pickled Asparagus

 

[TomsRibs210]

An entertaining and educational show and answered the key question of how in the hell do the Lizards find time to smoke. Another top quality, Emmy Award for Costume Design-winning episode. 

[ha_banos]

We can't get Avowed or Stoic here (UK)! What's teasers with this episode. 

The tongue map is wrong apparently. Of course it is. Nothing is so simple. When was the last time you 'tasted' 9v battery terminals? Sure ain't sweet! I think you lot should test this on the pod across the group. Shocking different parts of your tongue to trigger the flavours from the map...Does it work? 🤣

The real truth about whether our tongues have 'taste zones' - BBC Future https://share.google/lHerqg2Gt235Yiy62

I will try not retrohaling so much though next cigar and overloading my senses so I can be more aware of the palate.

Anyways would love to try Klaas' cigars. So you guys can bring me something to try on your UK tour! 👅

Sorry I'm running an episode behind at the moment!

@LizardGizmo @LizardBamBam

[LizardGizmo]

On 9/25/2025 at 11:44 AM, ha_banos said:

We can't get Avowed or Stoic here (UK)! What's teasers with this episode. 

The tongue map is wrong apparently. Of course it is. Nothing is so simple. When was the last time you 'tasted' 9v battery terminals? Sure ain't sweet! I think you lot should test this on the pod across the group. Shocking different parts of your tongue to trigger the flavours from the map...Does it work? 🤣

The real truth about whether our tongues have 'taste zones' - BBC Future https://share.google/lHerqg2Gt235Yiy62

@LizardGizmo @LizardBamBam

I've always heard that tongue maps like this were scientifically inaccurate but I do find his approach to palate coverage fascinating. It's working as I think he's making some great cigars.

I see what Vance at Stoic and the Avowed guys have to say re: international availability.

Also, I had no idea that Bam has an FOH profile until you tagged him...!

[ha_banos]

21 hours ago, LizardGizmo said:

I've always heard that tongue maps like this were scientifically inaccurate but I do find his approach to palate coverage fascinating. It's working as I think he's making some great cigars.

I see what Vance at Stoic and the Avowed guys have to say re: international availability.

Also, I had no idea that Bam has an FOH profile until you tagged him...!

Could be a faker account...You better check it out. Otherwise he's a <spit>lurker</spit>

[ha_banos]

Oh man. That talk of pickles and pickled asparagus(!) reminded me of this simple tomahawk beef and a homemade chimmichuri...amazing.