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I was wondering if anyone can help explain to me the current state of affairs in Cuba in regards to Habanos production? It was slow because of the pandemic, are we just screwed because of competition in the market? Are certain foreign markets taking first selection, and leaving other markets depleted? Can someone guess, or say when Habanos will increase production like before, and FOH could restock its store? How does this work?
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9 hours ago, Count of Montecristo said:

I was wondering if anyone can help explain to me the current state of affairs in Cuba in regards to Habanos production? It was slow because of the pandemic, are we just screwed because of competition in the market? Are certain foreign markets taking first selection, and leaving other markets depleted? Can someone guess, or say when Habanos will increase production like before, and FOH could restock its store? How does this work?
 If this in not appropriate please remove this. 
thanks! 

There have been countless threads on the forum that detail the overall state of affairs in Cuba and the Cuban cigar industry. Long story short, the country is a dumpster fire. The cigar industry isn't much better. Extremely low wages, constant brain drain, no resources, lack of investment, poor management, etc. Cuba has recently started buying sugar from the United States, the country that once produced the most sugar on the planet, can't even produce enough for their own population now. Soon, they'll be buying tobacco and molasses from other countries too. 

I copied a thread below from earlier this year regarding the forum's general thoughts on the state of Tabacuba/HSA, but long story short, things won't be getting any better, any time soon. Maybe, if there is a serious, deep global recession, demand will slow enough that availability becomes better, but things will not be materially improving on the supply side anytime soon.

 

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search is your friend. ;)

Rough timeline since 2020

  • Covid Came 
  • Tourists stopped
  • Bankruptcy
  • Hunger, power blackouts, medicine shortages, 
  • social unrest. 
  • government crackdown
  • Mass population exodus
  • currency shortage 
  • three digit inflation

 

Summary in terms of cigars. 

Tabacuba is no different to all other Cuban essential infrastructure. It is broken and there is no money to fix it. 

Production numbers will not increase past what they are doing today. They simply can't. That means they cannot restock a CC world that has been stripped bare. 

Prices wont drop. Supply will stay roughly the same. The world moves on. 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, El Presidente said:

search is your friend. ;)

Rough timeline since 2020

  • Covid Came 
  • Tourists stopped
  • Bankruptcy
  • Hunger, power blackouts, medicine shortages, 
  • social unrest. 
  • government crackdown
  • Mass population exodus
  • currency shortage 
  • three digit inflation

 

Summary in terms of cigars. 

Tabacuba is no different to all other Cuban essential infrastructure. It is broken and there is no money to fix it. 

Production numbers will not increase past what they are doing today. They simply can't. That means they cannot restock a CC world that has been stripped bare. 

Prices wont drop. Supply will stay roughly the same. The world moves on.

I’m smoking a young Ramon Allones Small Club Corona, it’s not out of its sick period yet, I’m getting sassafras cola notes 

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