Bourbon's not from KY...looking for seasoned opinions


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Well....I spent 30 years of my life in the heart of bourbon country (central KY, USA)...and have a great appreciation for the honey dew vine water. But....I was seeking some input on Bourbon's that aren't crafted in KY. It's actually a common misconception in the states that bourbon must be made in KY....not true, it's only popular there due to the early settlers of the area and the high limestone content of the land and aquifers effecting the water's chemistry used to brew it...makes it very distinct. Bourbon is merely unmolested whiskey (no cutting or filtering)....only rule is it must be straight from a charred oak barrel with certain alcohol proof standards in the states. The only bourbon I've tried not from KY is Bowman's made in Virginia and Michter's from Pennsylvania (both left a bit to be desired)...So my question is....anyone have any positive experiences with bourbon distilled outside the states? I don't even know if they exist to be honest. Thanks all.

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Actually, Michter's is made in Kentucky. It was originally from Penn... but... moved to KY in the 1990s. (So, I guess if you had it before that, it could have been from Penn.)

As for Bourbon not made in the states,there really isn't any. (At least purists will tell you this.) Many countries have either laws or trade agreements that deal with Bourbon, and require that it be made in the USA to be called Bourbon. I'm not aware of any that calls itself Bourbon that are made outside of the US.

There are no requirements for bourbon related to being filtered or cut. There are alcohol level requirements (both for bottling and pre-aging, percentage of ingredient requirements and such.

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Thanks for the reply their JThomas, and the heads up on the Michter's...was not aware it was in KY....I guess I should rephrase the question being that "bourbon" is an american title.....How about "straight" unfiltered, (no additives) corn based whiskey (not rye)...might fit better. Damn, this is getting a bit too specific.....I suppose was just inquiring if anywhere else in the world makes a "bourbon" like whiskey that is not rot gut. Thanks.

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If I can recall correctly, Canadian whisky is predominantly corn based nowadays. Besides the ubiquitous Canadian Club, the only other Canadian whisky I can think of is Bush Pilot's.

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If I can recall correctly, Canadian whisky is predominantly corn based nowadays. Besides the ubiquitous Canadian Club, the only other Canadian whisky I can think of is Bush Pilot's.

Crown Royal and Wiser's are the other big ones besides Canadian Club. But there's tons out there (Seagram's, Black Velvet, Pendleton's, etc.)

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You could try Forty Creek Canadian Whisky. It's small batch crafted in Southern Ontario by a wine maker and it is very tasty.

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You could try Forty Creek Canadian Whisky. It's small batch crafted in Southern Ontario by a wine maker and it is very tasty.

Forty Creek is VERY good!

Also in the Irish variety..Bushmills Black is fantastic

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I was in NYC a couple of years ago and tried a pretty decent one that was made in upstate NY called Hudson Bourbon or something like that. I don't recall much other than thinking that it was pretty good. Would like to try it again but never see on the shelves here in SC and haven't thought about it since.

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I was in NYC a couple of years ago and tried a pretty decent one that was made in upstate NY called Hudson Bourbon or something like that. I don't recall much other than thinking that it was pretty good. Would like to try it again but never see on the shelves here in SC and haven't thought about it since.

Yeah, it's called Hudson Baby Bourbon. They make a bunch of different kinds. I don't drink much whiskey, but I enjoy it. It's around $40 for 375ml in NY.

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Here is another vote for Canadian Forty Creek. Try the F.C. Confederation Oak. For me it is the best Canadian Whiskey that I ever had. In fact Forty Creek has just come out with another Whiskey called John's ( John Hall the owner of Forty Creek )No. #1 Cask. If it is as good as the Confederation Oak I will be in Heaven.

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Here is another vote for Canadian Forty Creek. Try the F.C. Confederation Oak. For me it is the best Canadian Whiskey that I ever had. In fact Forty Creek has just come out with another Whiskey called John's ( John Hall the owner of Forty Creek )No. #1 Cask. If it is as good as the Confederation Oak I will be in Heaven.

I saw both of those at the LCBO recently. I'll have to give them ago, because so far I am loving my first bottle of Forty Creek.

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Good stuff all...thanks for the input. Anyone tried German whiskey? Never have even seen it on the shelf before, much less heard of it. Interesting looking varieties via websites though.

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