PIRATES!

[Habanakane21]

South Park is the best

The South Park kids show us how to take over a boat, old school style:

Part 1

Part 2

At last, the kids are saved!!

The kids are saved by special forces

[ElGuapoSooner]

I say send in the SEALS. Times have changed but I am unaware of anything having changed in the code of military justice. The penalty for piracy is death.

I'm hearing "We now have pirates in custody". Whaaaat?!?!?! Why even report to the media, and thus to other Somali pirates, that you are taking action? Question them, if you believe they have information worth your time. After they are done screaming out whatever answers you can extract, put a round into the back of the head and throw them overboard. Simple, clean and final solution for the problem. Hell, if you want to be a budget hawk, skip the bullet. Just chuck 'em overboard 2-300 miles offshore. It might take a few years, but the pirates would finally run out of recruits when the boats stopped coming back. -EGS

[bassman]

Actually, when the US sailers were rescued, the snipers were Navy SEALS not Marines.

[ElGuapoSooner]

Actually, when the US sailers were rescued, the snipers were Navy SEALS not Marines.

The sailors weren't as lucky this go around.

"Four Americans taken from their yacht in the Indian Ocean by Somali pirates have been shot dead, the US military has said.

US naval forces on the way to try to rescue the Americans heard gunshots and on arrival found the four hostages had been killed.

Two pirates were killed and 15 detained during the incident, which took place on Monday.

The remains of two other pirates, who had been dead for some time, were found. The US military did not state how those two died. In total the US said 19 pirates were involved in the hijacking of the American's yacht, the Quest".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...somali-pirates

[Trevor2118]

I say send in the SEALS. Times have changed but I am unaware of anything having changed in the code of military justice. The penalty for piracy is death.

I'm hearing "We now have pirates in custody". Whaaaat?!?!?! Why even report to the media, and thus to other Somali pirates, that you are taking action? Question them, if you believe they have information worth your time. After they are done screaming out whatever answers you can extract, put a round into the back of the head and throw them overboard. Simple, clean and final solution for the problem. Hell, if you want to be a budget hawk, skip the bullet. Just chuck 'em overboard 2-300 miles offshore. It might take a few years, but the pirates would finally run out of recruits when the boats stopped coming back. -EGS

Getting shot in battle is one thing....acceptable!

Shooting someone after capture or surrender is another.....unacceptable!

That's the Military Justice Code in civilised countries.

[CanuckSARTech]

Actually, when the US sailers were rescued, the snipers were Navy SEALS not Marines.

Okay, cool, thanks Bassman. I wasn't 100% sure, so I stand corrected. Either way, well-trained U.S. service personel, who did one heck of a great job and delivered some top notch shots.

[CanuckSARTech]

Getting shot in battle is one thing....acceptable!

Shooting someone after capture or surrender is another.....unacceptable!

That's the Military Justice Code in civilised countries.

Agreed, Trevor.

As much as I hate the pirate issue, we can't stoop to that level, ElGuapoSooner. Capturing them, then interviewing/interogating them, and then putting some lead in their heads is not the answer. Western countries are held accountable. We're better than that, what you suggest. There isn't any interviewing/interoggation that can do any major benefit - what, to know where they're based out of? Things that can easily be found out by other means, and/or are already known.

Simply engage with them, and if they fire, then put them under the water. Simple as that.

[ElGuapoSooner]

Agreed, Trevor.

As much as I hate the pirate issue, we can't stoop to that level, ElGuapoSooner. Capturing them, then interviewing/interogating them, and then putting some lead in their heads is not the answer. Western countries are held accountable. We're better than that, what you suggest. There isn't any interviewing/interoggation that can do any major benefit - what, to know where they're based out of? Things that can easily be found out by other means, and/or are already known.

Simply engage with them, and if they fire, then put them under the water. Simple as that.

You are right...I'm just talking out my arse....the whole Somalia ordeal makes me see red. We should have cleaned house in Somalia back in the mid 1990s, but we allowed the inept UN to control things. We allowed Pakistan commanders to have command over our troops there...yeah, that worked out great!

[CanuckSARTech]

You are right...I'm just talking out my arse....the whole Somalia ordeal makes me see red. We should have cleaned house in Somalia back in the mid 1990s, but we allowed the inept UN to control things. We allowed Pakistan commanders to have command over our troops there...yeah, that worked out great!

No, IMO, while you have the right idea, I think it's with the wrong focus.

We allowed politics to control things there, not the U.N. specifically.

I don't think that the U.N. was yet proven to be inept - that didn't really come about until all the inspection issues with Saddam, and then with Iran. I think the U.N. was still on the fence at that time, with both the public, and the U.N. themselves, trying to decide whether or not they were still a viable entity. They've failed miserably in recent years.

But, I think that the Somalia thing went to shite once the "Blackhawk down" ordeal came about. The U.S. force that was there, a bit separate from the U.N. force, ended up being crippled by Bill Clinton's decisions. Hey, I completely like Clinton, and think he's been one of the best presidents in the past few decades - this isn't a Republican versus Democrat thing. But, after everything that the U.S. and the U.N. went through in the Balkans/Serbia, this Somalia mission just turned into a political and P.R. nightmare for the U.S. administration.

The rules of engagement in these various 90's missions, on the part of the U.S., the U.N., Canada, etc., just led to an ineffective fighting/peacekeeping force during those years, and it's become a crippling decision that's come to haunt us now.

[ElGuapoSooner]

We should park our aircraft carriers in the Gulf of Aden in order to prep for Libya. Two birds

[Kangaroo495]

My main concern with quelling these pirates would be that it would create a vacuum for the spread of extremist Islam. Take away the piracy, and the people will turn to al Qaeda. The situation is ripe for it there.

So maybe the pirates are the lesser of two evils..?

[rfenst]

Blokade their region. No ship goes in or out without inspection. or pre-aranged proper waiver. Prompttly and aggressively counter-attack EVERY seizure. Negotite ne time for a brief time-period, then attack. Do what ever can be done to protect the hostages, but understand that some will be killed. That is just the way it goes. If this doesn't work, perhaps killing the pirate's families and destroying their homes in retaliation will.