Oh, I've clipped off a centimeter on both ends and they still had a very tight draw. Maybe I just had bad luck with the Belveders, maybe producing a machine-made perfecto with a good draw is just difficult - I don't really care at this price. The Selectos and Panatelas, however, have proven to be very decent smokes for the money. They're nothing to meditate about but a good option for a cigar with a coffee, while going for a walk or to give out to (drunk) mooches.