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Can anyone describe the strength and flavors of Johns cigars? Are they all similar and just a choice of size? Of his current offerings I am interested in (in order of interest) LC Colonial pigtail LC Corona Gorda WF Flying Pig WF baby Salomon LC Closed Poker Run I prefer Medium to strong cigars if it helps. Some favorites are Partagas shorts and D4 Ramon Allones scc and ss Juan Lopez #2 Any help would be great. Jay

What's wf and lc stand for? How are they different? Thinking of trying the shorts and CG. Any info. on them?

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Furthermore, the USA was founded as a constitutional republic.

That's funny. I don't recall voting for anyone in the FDA. That's the people who will be regulating my cigars. Maybe your definition of democracy differs from mine.

"and Shlomo and his firearms . . ." LOL. Now that is funny.

"The difference between a residence and a bar/restaurant is that the latter is a place of employment, and a public place of accommodation. People who work in or patronize those establishments have different protections than people who visit my home." I agree Chris. There are plenty of protections for these people. Do you believe they need more? Where does personal responsibility for their own health factor in? Is your fellow man smart enough to decide what is safe for him? I say that by supporting laws, that say you're not smart enough to think for yourself so we will decide for you, that it must be what you believe. That is my opinion. I will let others decide for themselves ( I believe they are more than smart enough to do so). You also say that your home is different. What if you were to employ a housekeeper or a maintenance man. Would the current protections, and the future ones that you see fit, now apply to your home? Would your housekeeper now make the rules in your home? After all she wasn't smart enough to chose to take a job in a non smoking home so you helped pass a law to help her. Throw out your humidor you are now in violation of law! "I support smoking bans in these places to protect the employees, not necessarily the patrons." Why not the patron Chris? They are not any smarter. Don't they need your help too? "But in reality, when smoking is allowed, almost no establishments have been willing to ban smoking on their own. That means for someone in the service industry, they don't have a realistic choice to work in a smoke-free environment, because those places just don't exist." If there is such a demand for these places why don't they exist? You do know what supply and demand is right? When there is demand people step up to meet it. Maybe your numbers are flawed, or maybe you have another agenda (most people who think they know what is best for the masses usually do). I see you live in Indianapolis. Indianapolis has a population of 852,866 (2013). I don't know the exact number of restaurants in your city, but a quick internet search showed reviews of over 4200. If 4200 were reviewed there must be many more that were not. I didn't search bars but for the sake of debate lets assume that there must be a vast number of them also. Do you really expect me to believe that in a city your size with a huge population demanding smoke free environments, and the smoke Nazi's passing laws to help them, that these places don't exist? I call BS! The others, who I will state again are smart enough to make up their own mind, can decide for themselves. I could go on but frankly I am tired of typing. If you fell you are entitled to a job on your terms go out and find one. If you can't, why not put your money where your mouth is and open your own business. Then you can have your way. The ignorant folk, whose rights you are trying to take away, have already done this. Be personally responsible for yourself. Take a risk. Make a hard choice. Yes I know it's hard. The hard choices are still choices, don't pretend you don't have any. Quit feeling like you are entitled to have someone else provide you with what you want. Be personally responsible, there's that word again, and get it for yourself. The only person that owes you anything is you. And please leave your neighbor alone so he can have the same choices. He deserves it as much as you.

It's a sad day and age when people already have a vast amount of choices but that's not good enough. They need them all to hell with their neighbor. And some how they fell good about about it. I will never understand.

Zigatoh I will try to be more clear. If a vast majority of people want a smoke free bar the vast majority of bars will choose to be smoke free or risk going out of business. That leaves the few bars who may choose to give their customers a choice. Should they have that right?

"Now the vast majority of the UK are quite happy that they can now enjoy a drink or meal at pretty much any bar or restaurant without smoke. And by vast we're talking a silly ratio of happy with this to unhappy. I'm happy with it too, you put one smoker in a restaurant and this can literally ruin the meal for everyone else there. The smoker can still eat there, just not smoke for a bit. Or go outside for a smoke." If a vast majority prefers a smoke free bar or restaurant I assume a vast majority would choose to be smoke free or go out of business. The silly ratio of bars/restaurants that wish to give their customers a choice should be allowed to don't you think? Or do you believe even with all of your vast choices your fellow man should have none?

TomF Do you feel you have a right to make rules in my bar? Why not just find a place more to your liking? Better yet Spend your own hard earned money on a bar and allow your patrons to make the rules as they see fit. I wish you the best.

I have made it clear that everyone has other choices than being in my bar. They do not have to try and make me comply to their version of what is best. If you want special treatment get it yourself. You are not entitled for me to supply it for you. How much more help do I need in stating my case?

I agree with you Ray. I just may not be making it clear through the keyboard.

Yes, I deny I am violating civil rights by allowing smoking.

Civil rights. Really? It never ceases to amaze me the lengths people will go to justify the fact that they would rather force their opinion on others than think for themselves.