Storage questions

[yossie]

Dear cigar experts on this board.

I have some question. I am really happy if you answer my humble questions about storaging cigars.

1, I've heard Nowadays HSA does freezing cigars to kill beetles before shipping.

So, I guess There's no need to have climate (temperature) controlled humidor though, Is this right?

If so, I want a normal humi-celler and just keep humidity with 65 % beads.

BTW, Here's temperature changes from 35 C degree to 10 C degree from Summer to Winter.

For the above reason, Do you think I need a climate controlled humidor?

2,

With the normal humidor, Should I use humidity beads only to keep humidity in the humidor?

If you agree with it, What humidity should I keep?

Thanks for reading.

[n2advnture]

Hi Yossie,

While I have heard that HSA does freeze their cigars now to help prevent larvae hatching, I have heard reports of people who have had out breaks with current production cigars.

There is no way to tell if this is infestation from prior year cigars or cigars given to those individuals though.

I suggest keeping your cigars under 70 degrees as much as possible as this seems to be the accepted threshold for larvae hatching although people have had infestations below 70 degree. (I personally believe it's a combination of temp and humidity to promotes hatching).

The RH Beads are the easiest way to precisely regulate relative humidity. I have been using them for nearly 10 years with no problems.

The preferred RH level depends on your personal preference. Since switching to 65% rh about 10 years ago, I have found nearly zero draw, flavor and burn problems associated with storage. 70% rh lends itself to more problems in my opinion.

I hope this helps

~Mark

[yossie]

» Hi Yossie,

»

» While I have heard that HSA does freeze their cigars now to help prevent

» larvae hatching, I have heard reports of people who have had out breaks

» with current production cigars.

»

» There is no way to tell if this is infestation from prior year cigars or

» cigars given to those individuals though.

»

» I suggest keeping your cigars under 70 degrees as much as possible as this

» seems to be the accepted threshold for larvae hatching although people have

» had infestations below 70 degree. (I personally believe it's a combination

» of temp and humidity to promotes hatching).

»

»

» The RH Beads are the easiest way to

» precisely regulate relative humidity. I have been using them for nearly

» 10 years with no problems.

»

» The preferred RH level depends on your personal preference. Since

» switching to 65% rh about 10 years ago, I have found nearly zero draw,

» flavor and burn problems associated with storage. 70% rh lends itself to

» more problems in my opinion.

»

» I hope this helps

»

» ~Mark

Thanks mark.

Hmmm.. So, I need a climate controlled humidor..

But As you know, It's quite expensive.

Always, Cost is the most important problem for me.

BTW, Wineceller is cheaply available here though, Does it become a climate controled humidor?

[CIGARHead]

» » Hi Yossie,

» »

» » While I have heard that HSA does freeze their cigars now to help

» prevent

» » larvae hatching, I have heard reports of people who have had out breaks

» » with current production cigars.

» »

» » There is no way to tell if this is infestation from prior year cigars

» or

» » cigars given to those individuals though.

» »

» » I suggest keeping your cigars under 70 degrees as much as possible as

» this

» » seems to be the accepted threshold for larvae hatching although people

» have

» » had infestations below 70 degree. (I personally believe it's a

» combination

» » of temp and humidity to promotes hatching).

» »

» »

» » The RH Beads are the easiest way to

» » precisely regulate relative humidity. I have been using them for

» nearly

» » 10 years with no problems.

» »

» » The preferred RH level depends on your personal preference. Since

» » switching to 65% rh about 10 years ago, I have found nearly zero draw,

» » flavor and burn problems associated with storage. 70% rh lends itself

» to

» » more problems in my opinion.

» »

» » I hope this helps

» »

» » ~Mark

» Thanks mark.

» Hmmm.. So, I need a climate controlled humidor..

» But As you know, It's quite expensive.

» Always, Cost is the most important problem for me.

»

» BTW, Wineceller is cheaply available here though, Does it become a climate

» controled humidor?

Yossie,

Many people use a wine cellar for a humidor. They especially work good if "thermoelectric"....but in any event, if getting a custom made humidor with temperature control is out of the question right now, your best bet is to make a humidor out of a WineCellar.

[jasonM]

Hi Yossie,

I'm assuming that it's the upper end of the temperature range that is worrying you, and a possible bettle outbreak. Just because it's 35*C outside, doesn't necessarily mean that it'll be that temperature inside, and inside your humidor. It gets that warm where I am and yet, inside both my desktop humidor, and my long term storage coolerdor, it doesn't get above 25 or 26*C. I have yet to have an outbreak. Of course I could just be lucky as well.

Typically with higher outside temperatures, comes higher humidity in the summer, so just make sure that your beads are still working correctly and haven't become saturated themselves.

[Colt45]

Yossie, even if HSA does freeze and kill all beetle eggs, I'm still of the opinion that I want to keep my

cigars in as stable an environment as possible. Meaning, any changes in climate would be gradual,

with no rapid spikes in temp or humidity. Whatever humidor you choose, try to find a spot in your abode

that is relatively cool, out of direct sunlight, away from a direct heat source, etc.

As has been mentioned, with beads in the heat of summer, use water sparingly or not at all. If your home

is air conditioned, you should be able to maintain a relatively stable environment inside your humidors.

[yossie]

» Yossie,

»

» Many people use a wine cellar for a humidor. They especially work good if

» "thermoelectric"....but in any event, if getting a custom made humidor

» with temperature control is out of the question right now, your best bet

» is to make a humidor out of a WineCellar.

Thanks guys.

I attempt to try to get such wineceller.

I don't know why but It's reasonablly available here rather than climate controlled humidors.