samanderson

Thanks Fugu - I'll check their humidity that way. That sounds pretty safe, Buck. Cheers!

Thanks grizzlee. Anyone got any advice on how to humidify these cigars right? I've had a quick look but I've not found anything online about re-humidifying such old cigars. I obviously want to avoid having the wrappers split or anything...

You make a tempting offer, Buck...

Hey Fugu, Thanks so much for all that information! Yes, the lack of all those expected items on the box is unusual and has me slightly worried that someone is going to say that they are reproductions or something. But no one has suggested that so far... What you write seems a reasonable explanation--produced for the domestic market between 1902-1929 for the reasons you outline (there is nothing below the motto). Thanks again for all your efforts. Sam

I'm hoping so! I've been thinking more about your commemorative coronation idea and doing a little research. The phrase 'ich dien' (I serve) is the motto and along with the the three feathers make up the heraldic badge for the Prince of Wales (Edward's title prior to becoming King). The lion, unicorn and emblems shown on the insider lid are also elements of the coat of arms of the Prince of Wales. The pictures of Edward are all the same and they of his coronation that took place on 9th August 1902.

That's an interesting idea, Ken. I just called in to the guy who sold them to me. He said they came from a big old estate, and was part of a whole lot of stuff that came from around 1900-1920. He's going to contact the connection with the estate and see if he can find out any more information and get back to me.

Any further thoughts on the extra pics @Fugu?

haha It's in Blenheim, New Zealand. I'm not sure where you live, but chances are it's a bit far away!

Yeah, might give it a go reviving one or two, but I'd want to read a lot first, and make sure that I've got the right set up. If they were passable I'd be kinda keen to smoke one a year for the next 41 years--I would finish the box when I'm 80!

Hi Fugu, The name Llerandi Hnos does not appear anywhere on the box. The seal on the left is doubled and reads "Impuesto Sobre Consumo Interno" and then "Prodcutos Nacionales" In between those two words it says "1 Peso 1" (I'm pretty sure it's 'Peso' but the 's' is hard to make out fully. There are two main stickers applied. The first is the oval one shown below that spans the front opening. The second is the large one that says "Eduardo VII." and wraps around the right-hand end and not other bottom. That sticker has "No. 13802" printed in small black writing on the bottom right corner. The large picture on the inside of the lid has the same size writing but says "No. 13800". Could 02 on the Eduardo VII. sticker be the vitola, perhaps? Pics:

Thanks for the interest. I'll take a closer look tomorrow, it's just very late here in New Zealand (1:20am).

No worries. Cheers. Thanks. Do you mean standard cigarette rolling papers? Yeah, I like them. They are going on top of our upright grand piano circa 1904. Glad you think so. I'm pretty happy with them. Cheers. I'm not sure what you are referring to there, Wilzc.

Thanks guys. I did go and by them cause I agree that they are an interesting item. There are 41 in total, and the box held 48. There is a little wrapper damage around the cap on the 5 in the top row, and a little cracking on the foot of about 4-5 lower down as well. Other than that they are in very good condition. I ended up paying $100 Here are some pics.

Hey, thanks for the reply. Yeah, I was kinda thinking that, too. Thanks for the extra information, Fugu. That's helpful to know that they at least pre-dated 1958. I would certainly try one after a very gentle re-humidification. I'll have too look up how to do that though. I didn't seen any holes at all, so I don't think they've been attacked by beetles. I'll have to go back and have another look.

Yeah, thanks, I saw this after the link from Danimalia. So given that these are named after Edward VII (reigned 1901-1910) do you think these cigars could be around 100 years old? What are the chances of slowly reviving cigars like this? If they aren't going to ever be any good, would anyone buy them just for collecting value? If so, what would you pay?

Thanks prodigy, they are around $120 for the lot. Could probably get them a bit cheaper though. Ah, that makes sense. Thanks so much, Danimalia.

Hi all, My name is Sam and I'm new to the forum. Been smoking cigars for more than 15 years, but never joined a forum before. So hi! I've a question about a cigar I came across recently, but have not been able to find information about. An antique shop near where I live has a box of old-looking cigars. They are the brand Eduardo VII. On the band they have a picture of Edward VII and the word Havana. On the side of the box it has the words LLERANDI HNOS. The two words are on a line each, but they could be one word? The cigars are perfecto in shape and there are about 40 in the box--only a few have been smoked. They are completely dry, and a few have wrapper damage, but the rest are in very good shape. I should have taken a photo but I can go and get one if that would be helpful. Any information about these cigars would be much appreciated. Cheers!