When you give good Cigars to Stupid People

[toledo1969]

I had to get this out of my system. Yesterday a couple of good friends gathered for some Aberlour A'bunadh Tasting. I brought some nice Habano Collection, one of the cigars was a Cohiba Limited Edition Piramide from 2006. This Special Cigar was for my personal consumption, the others were Monte2, Punch LCDH, Diplos #2 and Bolivar Belicosos. Now I always love to give away cigars, but this has happened to me way to many times, when you give away good cigars to people that just don't appreciate them or have no idea what they are smoking. 

But yesterday was one of those days that I actually wanted to say something to this person, that once I show the cigars and ask them to pick and chose, and this person that I won't mention his name, let's just call him POS. The protocol for the person the brings the cigars always is please chose and then someone ask what cigar are you smoking, and then I say I would take this one. In this case this did not happen, POS did not hesitate and grabbed the Cohiba EL 2006. So this already put me in a bad mood. So what happened afterwards. 

 

The POS cut the cigar with his mouth, not only that, but he smoked less than a quarter of this Classic Habano and then just left it, but how he left it, you know in those old movies where they basically destroy the cigar when they put it out. Well this was one of those times, he destroyed this very expensive cigar. Basically it ruined my day, I think I learned my lesson from now on. I think the saying goes, never give good hay to a jackass. 

 

I will go a buy a bunch of Te-Amos and just give these away and save my Good Habanos for only close friends that can appreciate. 

[Derboesekoenig]

I only give away regular production cigars, and I try to show them what to do if they are inexperienced. I cannot stand when someone puts out a cigar like a cigarette, chews them instead of properly cutting...but I try to remain respectful. Sorry that happened to you. I would not be offering that person any cigars next time

[toledo1969]

2 minutes ago, Derboesekoenig said:

I only give away regular production cigars, and I try to show them what to do if they are inexperienced. I cannot stand when someone puts out a cigar like a cigarette, chews them instead of properly cutting...but I try to remain respectful. Sorry that happened to you. I would not be offering that person any cigars next time

The POS was not even a friend, he was invited by another close friend. But the worst part was that he never even said thank you, but again I have learned my lesson. 

[RyviaUSA]

Sounds like lesson learned.  I just had an outing where I brought cigars.

I brought a Cohiba for me and my step-father since it was his 60th birthday and he smokes plenty of cigars.  He knows good from bad, and he loved the cohiba.

The other 3 people were great people, but they don't smoke cigars.  For them, I brought other non-cubans that I personally know are decent cigars yet weren't expensive or hard to get.

In the end, everyone was happy.   

[luckme10]

This is why I always keep my 'top' shelf sticks as something with big banded non cubans under $5 each. 

[wineguy]

It is a strange thing, I have friends who would be welcome to any cigar that I have and they always choose something middle of the road and others who are clueless and always gravitate to the Cohiba bands...... and as stated above smoke half the cigar....

[Ryan]

This has probably happened to all of us who bring cigars out to share with people who don't know their value.

It happened me twice with the same person. Once with a Behike 56, the week before they were launched at the festival in February 2010.

And again with a LGC Glorioso. Both times he smoked less than an inch and stubbed them out, as you describe.

The fact that your friend stubbed out his cigar means he's probably not a regular cigar smoker.

I have two ways of not letting this happen anymore, depending on who I'm smoking with.

Bring a cigar case for sharing and a cigar case for my own cigars to smoke.

Just have one case but it doesn't contain any cigars that I wouldn't want to give away.

[Derboesekoenig]

Just now, Ryan said:

This has probably happened to all of us who bring cigars out to share with people who don't know their value.

It happened me twice with the same person. Once with a Behike 56, the week before they were launched at the festival in February 2010.

And again with a LGC Glorioso. Both times he smoked less than an inch and stubbed them out, as you describe.

 

HOLY **** dude. I know it's only money, but I would have been absolutely livid. No more cigars for that guy haha

[Guest Nekhyludov]

That's certainly a frustrating experience, and a lesson well-learned. I find it difficult, however, to get upset with someone for choosing to accept something that I myself offered them. If I offer someone a cigar, it's gone to me. Whether they stub it, nub it, toss it, eat it, whatever. None of my business. It's not mine anymore. 

This is why I never offer cigars that I care a lot about to novices or acquaintances. 

[THEMISCHMAN]

I have two ways of not letting this happen anymore, depending on who I'm smoking with.
Bring a cigar case for sharing and a cigar case for my own cigars to smoke.
Just have one case but it doesn't contain any cigars that I wouldn't want to give away.

This.

You also could have told that person that the Cohiba was the cigar you brought to smoke and the others were to share. Either way, live and learn.

[fitzy]

Your first mistake was giving him the option of picking the cigar you were going to smoke. 

Your second mistake was not snatching it right out of his greasy little hands the second he picked it up.

Your third mistake is not giving them some shitty non cubans for them to smoke. 

 

Sorry but that totally sucks and burns my ass when shit like that happen. I've had similar incidents where they gladly accept a great cuban cigar and then proceed to smoke maybe 1/4 of it before throwing it out. Never made that mistake again. Now I keep cheap non cubans on hand for them.

[toledo1969]

2 minutes ago, fitzy said:

Your first mistake was even giving them the option of picking the cigar you were going to smoke. 

Your second mistake is not giving them some shitty non cubans for them to smoke. 

 

I've got some friends/neighbors that don't smoke cigars often and after letting them smoke 1/4 of some of my cubans I keep cheap non cubans on hand for them and won't make the same mistake.

I am also thinking of buying some Jose Luis Piedra and Quinteros to be my new give away cigars, since a lot of these people want the Cuban Cigar experience, not knowing the difference. 

[Connoisseur Kim]

Thankfully, I am not a kind of foolish person on this post who cannot enjoy habanos properly since I have plenty of experience from perfume and liquor reviewing .

By the way, there are actually worse people than a person on this post like smoking cigars in less than 50 minutes...

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[fitzy]

17 minutes ago, toledo1969 said:

I am also thinking of buying some Jose Luis Piedra and Quinteros to be my new give away cigars, since a lot of these people want the Cuban Cigar experience, not knowing the difference. 

Yup that would be an excellent option! Also the Por Larranaga Panetela's are like $50 to $60. 

[Doctorossi]

8 minutes ago, LonesomeHabanoAficionado said:

By the way, there are actually worse people than a person on this post like smoking cigars in less than 50 minutes...

Tom Arnold has spoken a number of times about a period in his life that he would routinely suck down a CoRo over the course of a 15-minute coffee break.

[JGD]

That's a tough way to learn a lesson! These days when I have a group of people over for cigars I make sure to select the cigars that will be smoked, that way people don't grab something I have put aside. However, I have a select few friends that have the pick of the litter of my humidor except for a small selection of high end cigars. 

[Connoisseur Kim]

Tom Arnold has spoken a number of times about a period in his life that he would routinely suck down a CoRo over the course of a 15-minute coffee break.

I myself would ended up being dead if I smoke Cohiba Robustos in 15 minutes (I myself slow puffer).

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[cigcars]

*Having been through the loss of highly prized, rare and expensive cigars (as well as other items) through the years; and having the highly volatile temperament that I have  - as I'm sure you've seen on some of my "rants" here - I will tell you; In order to keep from short circuiting and blowing a possible fatal fuse - yes, I get that mad - I just stop, calm down, and make myself think "Acceptance". The perfect tool to deal with aggravating circumstances. My very last discontinued from production Fonseca Invictos, my niece at 2 years old got into my humidor, picked IT up - out of all the rest in there, and destroyed it in her cute, chubby little hands. What could I do - but maybe sniff a little in sorrow - but acceptance. I gave some of my Habanos to my co-worker, a supervisor, who took them home and placed them in his makeshift humidor cigar box. He came to work later that week to tell me that one of his little cousins had discovered them; without asking took them out; split them open; and placed his "funny weed" inside it (as they do with Philly Blunts); you know the rest. When he discovered what had happened and gasped in shock, disbelief, etc., his cousin said, "Oh you can get some more! You can get some more!" just not knowing what he had there. So the supervisor and I both were fired up! Again...what are you gonna do!? Soooo - I just try to obtain what I can again, and realize "things" happen to prized possessions despite our best efforts. 

[Connoisseur Kim]

14 minutes ago, cigcars said:

*Having been through the loss of highly prized, rare and expensive cigars (as well as other items) through the years; and having the highly volatile temperament that I have  - as I'm sure you've seen on some of my "rants" here - I will tell you; In order to keep from short circuiting and blowing a possible fatal fuse - yes, I get that mad - I just stop, calm down, and make myself think "Acceptance". The perfect tool to deal with aggravating circumstances. My very last discontinued from production Fonseca Invictos, my niece at 2 years old got into my humidor, picked IT up - out of all the rest in there, and destroyed it in her cute, chubby little hands. What could I do - but maybe sniff a little in sorrow - but acceptance. I gave some of my Habanos to my co-worker, a supervisor, who took them home and placed them in his makeshift humidor cigar box. He came to work later that week to tell me that one of his little cousins had discovered them; without asking took them out; split them open; and placed his "funny weed" inside it (as they do with Philly Blunts); you know the rest. When he discovered what had happened and gasped in shock, disbelief, etc., his cousin said, "Oh you can get some more! You can get some more!" just not knowing what he had there. So the supervisor and I both were fired up! Again...what are you gonna do!? Soooo - I just try to obtain what I can again, and realize "things" happen to prized possessions despite our best efforts. 

Such a huge loss since it is being used inappropriately by the ignorant person!! ? Because of this, I will not simply let a person taking or touching cigars who does not know cigars (and pipes but will be acquired in future) unless showing a willingness to learn how to appreciate habanos properly.

[MooseAMuffin]

I only have a few friends that actually respect cigars so I will provide them with regular production Cubans or nicer NCs but nothing I deem special.

For those that dont smoke or only occasionally, I bring flavored cigars. This way they can enjoy whether they light it up or chew on it. Acid Kuba Kuba and CAO Gold Honey are what I usually hand out. They seem to appreciate it which is all that really matters. ?

This reminds me of a story, I am pretty sure I read on here, where this guy's wife had a ladies night out. In the morning she told him she smoked one of his cigars and he panicked, ran outside and found that she butchered one of his rare cigars he was saving. He posted pics and they were pretty funny. 

[Connoisseur Kim]

8 minutes ago, MooseAMuffin said:

I only have a few friends that actually respect cigars so I will provide them with regular production Cubans or nicer NCs but nothing I deem special.

For those that dont smoke or only occasionally, I bring flavored cigars. This way they can enjoy whether they light it up or chew on it. Acid Kuba Kuba and CAO Gold Honey are what I usually hand out. They seem to appreciate it which is all that really matters. ?

This reminds me of a story, I am pretty sure I read on here, where this guy's wife had a ladies night out. In the morning she told him she smoked one of his cigars and he panicked, ran outside and found that she butchered one of his rare cigars he was saving. He posted pics and they were pretty funny. 

I cannot imagine that some say flavoured cigars are better than pure natural taste handmade cigars (I prefer natural taste of CCs and this is the reason why I appreciate habanos) ?

[bpm32]

If I’m going to bring a bunch of cigars for people to smoke my cigar is always the one without the band. If people ask what it is I tell them it’s just some no name factory second. The true cigar smoking friends always get handed the cigars I want them to have directly.

Sometimes I’ll precut my cigar so I can tell people, “oh, not that one, I already sucked on the end.”

[SigmundChurchill]

I dont do the “pick your cigar” thing.  If I am with other aficionados, I will bring the good stuff, and give it to them.

If I am with friends that just like to have a good stogie once in a while, I’ll bring them some $8 Cuban robustos (PSD4s, BRCs, etc) of some kind.  They love it, because it is forbidden fruit, and at the same time, I’m not wasting anything special on them. 

Edited August 28, 2018 by SigmundChurchill

[oliverdst]

so you thought it would be a good ideia to have a cigar like that with someone who doesnt have a clue about it?

I think it´s not his fault.

[Jnavas1500]

He cut it with his mouth, then put it out after ? “POS” has no respect